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Donald Trump Issues One of His Greatest Takedowns of Windmills
brietbart.com ^ | 12/23/2019 | Charles Spiering

Posted on 12/23/2019 4:08:19 PM PST by rktman

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To: Ex gun maker.; rktman; KC_for_Freedom; 867V309

Like you guys I’m sceptical re: “green energy”, it’s real motivation compared to what has been proven to be cheap, and with research and less government bureaucracy could actually been built. I see the same type to issues with nuclear. The designs that are operating are decades old and have been proven to be safe when operated by competent and attentive people. If it wasn’t such a monumental/glacial speed event to get a design approved we could explore the idea of building newer/better (less controls/ more organic fail safes, etc) designs. Instead the bureaucratic nightmare sours the same and here we are.

The same could be said for safe long term storage. It took decades for the powers that be to study and then act on building a site. Then in a single election cycle Yuca mtn was deemed unsuitable and work stopped never to be ever to restarted. I fear there will be no answer to this issue in the cycle of this civilization. It’s a project that cannot be restarted/ completed in a fast enough timeframe to survive the political machine.

When we as a society cannot steer real progress while ensuring reasonable safety, then the long term prognosis is not kind.

I don’t want completely unregulated situations either. History in our country and current events in other parts of the globe are replete with examples of why this is a bad idea.

Judicious balance between likelyhood/consequence and a real long term schedule (ie: planning on operating 50-70+ years) could allow a design that is robust and yet still buildable could be accomplished. But unlike other countries projected here have to have a short term ROI lest they are unfunded.


101 posted on 12/24/2019 6:01:36 AM PST by Oil Object Insp
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To: heavy metal

:-)


102 posted on 12/24/2019 6:03:48 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: 43north
Nuclear power is the way to go for cheap, dependable energy. Of course, THAT is way to scary for the commies.

The problem with nuclear power is that it doesn't address the "social justice" side of green energy that demands a total redistribution of wealth from productive nations to African dictators.

103 posted on 12/24/2019 6:05:32 AM PST by Drew68
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To: heavy metal

So, really new or a new handle? LOL! Welcome to the fray and wear your alligator shin guards. And, Merry Christmas.


104 posted on 12/24/2019 6:07:34 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Oil Object Insp

From post 1, nearly 90% of the NVEnergy comes from NON “renewables” currently and the legislature has mandated (via a ballot question based on lies) the utility have 50% “renewable” by 2030. Wish us luck with that.


105 posted on 12/24/2019 6:13:57 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: 867V309
And your condescending tone to the other posters is a sure sign of maturity. Or is it just that you think you know more than you do? You simply ignore the problems with other fuel types and just claim how bad nuclear is with out looking at it's past history.
106 posted on 12/24/2019 8:13:42 AM PST by jimpick
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To: 867V309

OK, I left out that part about my opinion,

You were correct to call me on it. But the opinion remains, I also support electrification of the rails and Trump.


107 posted on 12/24/2019 9:52:19 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: Oil Object Insp

Everything you say is true. As a practicing safety engineer I have seen loads of projects where safety was driven to a low level (and some of the projects ended in failure) However I have also worked on our nuclear submarine systems and I can tell you that these people handle safety the way it should be handled. (Hint, put them in charge of our nuclear power infrastructure and see how it goes.)

But we do have a PR problem with the folks who like to quickly show their skepticism and fear.

My contention is that we can order business properly and safe nuclear power could flourish. I have always admitted that solar and wind systems and battery technology can be part of the new power paradigm but should go to the extent that they succeed economically — as should nuclear. The solution is to fix the issue with regulation delays.


108 posted on 12/24/2019 10:03:31 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: roadcat

“They don’t last long (some self-destruct quickly). Lots of problems with blade edges wearing out and creating imbalances and moisture damage. And not recyclable, are dumped in landfills.”

A while back I read the energy we get from windmills, large or small, doesn’t come close to paying for them over their lifetime. And guess how much energy we get when no wind is blowing. A recent article described the nightmare involved trying to dispose of obsolete windmills. Transporting cost is thru the roof and most land fills don’t let you dump a giant metal structure with all manner of electric motors and chemical coatings.

I’ve never seen a money saving liberal idea that didn’t leave you minus an arm and leg.


109 posted on 12/24/2019 10:23:30 AM PST by bluescape (Mainstream Media-The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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I’ve never seen a money saving liberal idea that didn’t leave you minus an arm and leg.

Or wings in the case of birds. If you kill an American eagle, you get jailed. The windmills get exemptions. Poor birds!

110 posted on 12/24/2019 11:51:05 AM PST by roadcat
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To: struggle

The pres in Germany I suspect is well compensated by the Russians. Kinda like our democrats from the Ukraine and China etc.


111 posted on 12/24/2019 12:03:49 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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