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I’m a trauma surgeon who works near Jersey City, where 6 people died this week
The Star-Ledger ^ | 12.15.19 | Dr. Stephanie Bonne, MD, FACS

Posted on 12/22/2019 8:59:06 AM PST by Coleus

When my pager goes off at University Hospital in Newark, and I see a line that reads “Pediatric gunshot wound, 20 minutes out,” I immediately run down to the ER whether I’m on call or not, because I can’t help but wonder if it’s my kid. That’s the added twist of being a mother of three and a trauma surgeon in America. I worry, like other mothers, about my childrens’ safety, and it’s my job to expect patients rushed to our ER who may have minutes left to live.

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TOPICS: Editorial; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: antisemite; badabing; badaboom; banglist; black; blackcrime; blackisraelites; doctor; gardenstate; guncontrol; gungrabber; guns; gunviolence; innercity; jerseycity; newjersey; nj; physician; racists; shooting; violence
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To: old curmudgeon

If the good doctor was forced to raise her family in the hood, like millions our of poor, she would become very interested owning a gun.


41 posted on 12/22/2019 9:45:35 AM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: Coleus

“They now support the transgender movement and ruin peoples’ lives instead of trying to correct their psychological problems, they do sex change operations and give female hormones to teenage boys and male hormones to girls.”

The whole process is so repulsively immoral that it can only, legitimately, be called “Mengelization,” in honor of the late Auschwitz Doktor Josef Mengele. Thus, I always refer to individuals who’ve had the “procedure” as having been “Mengelized.”


42 posted on 12/22/2019 9:46:45 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

good point, I never correlated it that way..


43 posted on 12/22/2019 9:52:17 AM PST by Coleus (Vivat Jesus)
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To: nwrep

Hey Stephaney, Get out of the NJ sewer and go the Podunk Kansas where you can treat farm accident victims. I hear their blood is less bloody, and you’ll be safer.


44 posted on 12/22/2019 9:55:34 AM PST by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: old curmudgeon
"So instead of reasoning with them, we need to simply enforce the Constitution, our laws that are constitutional and push them aside."

Option B is Eugenic Disposal. As you pointed out, their sociopathy is genetic, and they cannot be "educated" into tolerance. They have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with their own or anyone else's welfare. They do not understand this "freedom" thing.

Perhaps we can breed it out of the gene pool. The technology is on the shelf.

45 posted on 12/22/2019 10:01:11 AM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: gundog

Every Pharm rep I know is hot.


46 posted on 12/22/2019 10:01:26 AM PST by EEGator
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To: old curmudgeon

Whether they are doctors, lawyers, preachers or top cops matters not. It is in the genes.

Genes? Maybe. But, I think it’s also that as they climb their professional ladders, they are more and more insulated from the consequences of what they support. And then they realize that in order to climb even more or gain more clout, they have to really start diving in, because that’s what the puppet masters want. Obedience.

Typical liberals, all kind, caring and compassionate, yet they don’t want any of the people they support near them.

Go anywhere in the country, pretty much, your police chiefs are, for the most part, Liberal political hacks. Get out away from the cities and your Sheriffs and Chiefs tend to be Conservative and Constitutionalist’s.

No different than the politicians and the leeches in DC. They love supporting their liberal causes from their ALL-WHITE neighborhoods in and around DC. Let a black guy walk down the street, minding his own business and see how fast a cop shows up.


47 posted on 12/22/2019 10:08:17 AM PST by qaz123
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To: neverevergiveup

There are likely multiple factors, but when I’ve had this discussion with many liberals, their answer is often to blame ‘poverty’.

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I’ve long ago given up on ever trying to reason with or debate with liberals. They have been immunized against exposure to facts, logic and the lessons of history by a corrupt education system. They do not think; they only emote and can rationalize anything away.

The non-academic coalition of private bipartisan participants that you suggest sounds good in theory but for the reasons stated above I doubt that it could ever produce any constructive or useful policies or results.

In a somewhat related note it looks like Boris Johnson’s new government could actually be a game changer that has a chance to reestablish conservative policies back into their government. Even though this is about Great Britain I found the article relevat to our own political situation:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/post-brexit-planning-establishment-due-enormous-shake


48 posted on 12/22/2019 10:08:37 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Coleus
What percentage of these gun deaths are committed by gang bangers?

O' Wait never mind ....dumb question

just take their guns away....simple

49 posted on 12/22/2019 10:10:12 AM PST by Popman
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To: Coleus

So, how many “near Jersey City” died, this week, from medical misadventure? I’ll bet it was a lot more than six.


50 posted on 12/22/2019 10:14:06 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: Coleus
Yes, they know better, because they are brainwashed doctors which means they have many more years of brainwashing than the average college student who is brainwashed in 4 yrs. instead of 11 years!!

It doesn't help that the path to success in medicine doesn't reward anyone for original thought, and that coupled with the fact that the body of knowledge that must be assimilated limits the time one has for in-depth examination of any other subject ... one ends up accepting the conventional view of all things.

51 posted on 12/22/2019 10:26:52 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: jonascord
Option B is Eugenic Disposal. As you pointed out, their sociopathy is genetic, and they cannot be "educated" into tolerance. They have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with their own or anyone else's welfare. They do not understand this "freedom" thing.

Perhaps we can breed it out of the gene pool. The technology is on the shelf.

More likely:


52 posted on 12/22/2019 10:29:11 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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To: Coleus
I want to understand why violence is an epidemic

Start with looking at your INCORRECT assumption. Violent crime is lower now that it has been in decades. There is no "epidemic"!

Over the past few decades, we have cut car crash deaths per capita almost in half.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191223/reported-murder-and-nonnegligent-manslaughter-rate-in-the-us-since-1990/

During the same time, we have cut the violent crime rate in half. Not with stricter gun laws but with allowing citizens to defend themselves - via more gun ownership and the ability to carry.

53 posted on 12/22/2019 10:29:24 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: Starboard
I am the mother of a MURDERED CHILD. The killer was is a SOCIOPATH. NO MORALS, NO CONCIOUS. He Plea Bargained a M1 to a M2, took 2 yrs to get that Plea deal while he sat in jail. M1 became M2, 20 yrs, 10 months later I was fighting the first of 6 parole hearings. He served 1 day for 1 day off for good behavior. Best I could do is make him served every one of those 10.5 yrs. WEAPON, A 2 FT SECTION OF FENCE POST. MY JEREMY WAS BEAT TO DEATH SO SOME POS SOCIOPATH COULD GET HIS JOLLIES TO SEE WHAT IT FELT LIKE TO KILL. BROUGHT HIS FRIENDS ALONG TO SEE THE DEED HE DID. WATCHED THE POLICE INVESTIGATE UNTIL SOMEONE POINTED HIM OUT AND THEN RAN FOR THE WOODS.

THIS WAS LESS THAN A HALF BLOCK FROM OUR HOME. BELOW RR TRACKS BESIDES A DESERTED ICE PLANT, THE HS KIDS USED AS A SHORT CUT. JEREMY WAS DEAD WITH THE FIRST BLOW.


54 posted on 12/22/2019 10:38:30 AM PST by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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To: gundog

1/3RD: A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html


55 posted on 12/22/2019 10:41:25 AM PST by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

NO such place. We moved out of Memphis because of the high crime and taxes. 1 party rule Dems. Even in our small berg we have had 4 murders this year, POS came out of Memphis to shoot elderly homeowners they were robbing.


56 posted on 12/22/2019 10:45:55 AM PST by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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To: Coleus

HOW MANY INNOCENT PATIENTS HAS SHE KILLED??

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don’t want you to know about

A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html


57 posted on 12/22/2019 10:46:01 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: old curmudgeon

...”since all dims seem to have the same problem with logic and morality,...”

When The Truth is sourced OUTSIDE yourself you have only to accept where it leads you. This is why there is peace in acceoting God. Those who displace God’s authority with THEIR OWN live in angry denial. Any logic that points them to that which is unacceptable is denied.


58 posted on 12/22/2019 10:59:25 AM PST by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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To: facedown
Just another leftist activist masquerading as a doctor. The AMA is full of them.

Your comment reminded me of this guy, during the Wisconsin Legislature protests back in 2011:

His name is available on the internet, but I won't post it here.

59 posted on 12/22/2019 11:05:36 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Coleus
Dear Dr. Bonne,

I went to your university page to find a picture of you. In case you hadn't noticed you are Caucasian (noun: a white person; a person of European origin.). Let's face it, such people by and large don't shoot each other so statistically you have very little to worry about.

Unless and until, society at large grasps that fact, progress on solving the violence problem is impossible.

60 posted on 12/22/2019 11:28:01 AM PST by atomic_dog
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