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New Zealand Gun Buyback Was An ‘Unmitigated Failure’
dailycaller ^ | December 20, 2019 | Kyle Hooten

Posted on 12/21/2019 6:04:21 AM PST by Eddie01

Many New Zealand gun owners have refused to participate in a mandatory buyback program of military-style semi-automatic weapons implemented after the Christchurch massacre in March.

Despite a penalty of up to five years in prison, up to two-thirds of firearms banned by the legislation were not turned in before the Friday deadline by New Zealand gun owners, the Washington Post reported.

While 47,000 semi-automatic rifles have been collected, according to police statistics, a government commissioned study determined that the small nation likely contains between 56,000 and 170,000 now banned weapons, according to 1 News.

New Zealand’s largest gun rights advocacy group, the Licensed Firearms Owners Council, remarked that the buyback program has been an “unmitigated failure.”

Police Minister Stuart Nash blamed the government’s inability to enforce its buyback scheme on a lack of gun registration. “The problem is we just don’t know exactly how many guns are out in the community, this is why we need a register, to enable Police to better track firearms,” he said, according to 1 News.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buyback; failure; guns; newzealand
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To: Eddie01

Basically they just disarmed those loyal to the government.

So now they have only to worry that they have the manpower to keep their political power from those who are are already armed and disobeying the laws.


21 posted on 12/21/2019 6:37:22 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Or on other words, he let the cat out of the bag. Gun registration is solely for the purpose of eliminating them. Step one do it softly with a buy back program. Step two confiscate by force.

It will be interesting to see how Virginia turns out over the next few months.


22 posted on 12/21/2019 6:38:38 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: Vaquero
You know, there's a saying that "You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold, dead, fingers."

I wondered why people didn't coin another saying, "You can have my guns after I've given you all the bullets." ...?

Or is that the "Red Flag" law: wanting to keep your gun proves you can't be trusted with it?

23 posted on 12/21/2019 6:39:37 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Eddie01
New Zealand during World War II, before it succumbed to the insanity of the decadence of Western Civilization:

"A frightful Japanese broadcast has steeled us for the worst. It came through two nights before I left. A Japanese professor was describing New Zealand and how it would be developed by the Japanese.”

“Maoris, as true members of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, will be allowed special priveleges. White men will be used on the farms. He said that the lush fields, the wealth, the cities were in their grasp at last. The day of reckoning with insolent New Zealanders was at hand. Immortal Japanese troops would know what to do."

"The old men--well, your wife's father and mine, for example. They are stationed at the beaches. They know they dare not retreat. They have taken their positions now."

"The home guard is next. They have been digging in furiously. They occupy prepared positions near the cities and the best beaches. The regular army will be thrown in as the fighting develops. Everyone has decided to fight until the end. The cities and villages will be destroyed."

"Many families have gone to the hills. Cars are waiting to take the others at the first sign of the Jap fleet. My wife and the kiddies have gone. Your wife...said to tell you that she will stay until the last."

"It was my humble duty to assist in preparing the defenses of Auckland. I issued several thousand picks, crowbars, and axes. There were no other weapons."

~James Michener~
Tales of the South Pacific
New York: Fawcett, 1946, pp. 17-18.

24 posted on 12/21/2019 6:42:27 AM PST by Savage Beast (The curse of high intelligence: Having to watch the morons try everything that obviously won't work.)
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To: Eddie01

“the small nation likely contains between 56,000 and 170,000 now banned weapons”

That’s a heckuva margin of error. The government will never have high-confidence that they got them all — which shows the folly of the entire enterprise.


25 posted on 12/21/2019 6:43:48 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Step #2: A friendly knock on the door from your local constabulary.”

Or they kick it in at 3AM in a no-knock raid.


26 posted on 12/21/2019 6:45:40 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Tallguy

Those who have them will be organizing political campaigns against the policy, failing that they just made a huge segment of their population into crimals.


27 posted on 12/21/2019 6:45:46 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Eddie01

Typical left-wing la-la land terminology...”assault weapon”, “buyback”...


28 posted on 12/21/2019 6:47:04 AM PST by moovova
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To: Tallguy
Or they kick it in at 3AM in a no-knock raid.

No,no,no...you've got it all wrong. New Zealand is a civilized country...not like some cowboy country like the US.Step #2 would go something like:

Public Servant:"Good afternoon,mate...we'd like you to turn over your weapons...there's a good chap."

Resident: "Sorry,no can do"

Public Servant: "We have ways of making you comply.We'll be back".

Resident: "Better bring a battalion when you do"

And at Step #3 he finds a battalion surrounding his house

29 posted on 12/21/2019 6:58:01 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: Eddie01

The next step is MAKING EXAMPLES of the remaining gun owners, as they are turned in by others, or use them in self-defense.

Don’t worry, compliance will happen - just in steps.

(which is why we don’t have the luxury of letting Democrats take power, regardless of whether so-and-so is perceived as a RINO).


30 posted on 12/21/2019 6:59:16 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Then New Zealand’s infantry batallion is going to be one very busy outfit!


31 posted on 12/21/2019 7:00:23 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: heshtesh
"I will never understand why these people don’t realize bad guys are going to get guns no matter what. Same in the USA."

They don't define bad guys the same as conservatives do. Just like here, they want to take guns from freedom loving citizens so they can more easily rule by oppression.

32 posted on 12/21/2019 7:04:17 AM PST by Truth29
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To: duckman

They don’t care if the bad guys can get guns. It’s always about disarming the good guys.


33 posted on 12/21/2019 7:09:18 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Eddie01

No surprise, buyback is always a failure. Bad guys don’t participate.


34 posted on 12/21/2019 7:16:35 AM PST by chopperk (ms)
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To: Eddie01

It’s easy to see why it failed. The owners rightly reasoned that they didn’t possess any weapons previously purchased from their govt. Therefore there was nothing for them to sell back.


35 posted on 12/21/2019 7:48:14 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Tallguy

Unless it’s holiday. Or past 5pm. Or the weekend. Or the day before a holiday, in which case, would you mind terribly if they clocked out half an hour early?


36 posted on 12/21/2019 8:01:51 AM PST by ferret_airlift
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To: Lurkinanloomin

In the US it’s called Form 4470. To now it’s been mostly an unrealized ‘resource’ by our govt. re registration. When an FFL ceases business all accumulated 4470s are supposed to be given to the ATF. Sometimes that happens but not always....for various reasons. If the ATF winds up in possession of the businesses 4470s you can bet they make a list. Barring that the best they can do is visit the business under the guise of compliance checking and copy 4470s. However wholesale copying is forbidden. During the Clinton years they did this targeting buyers of so called assault weapons. All of that info goes into The List. In the end though what’s been compiled is only very rough and subject to the incompetence of the the ATF which is legend. (They can’t ever rightly keep a good list of highly regulated Class 3 et al weapons.)

That said the other resource is NICS. However all transactions are supposed to be purged after a short period. In light of current behaviors (or rather misbehaviors) of the FBI it’s hard to imagine they’re in compliance. I suspect a proper investigation would reveal a registry based on NICS data. That leaves only the state data. I’m sure most have or aspire to have registry’s.


37 posted on 12/21/2019 8:07:02 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Eddie01

With this policy the gun owners have a couple of options, hide the guns or what eventually happens, they band together and take out the stormtroopers doing the gestapo raids. I contend when you reach the point of goon squads kicking in doors in the middle of the night we are past the hiding stage.

However to wait for the goons to act is a losing proposition and gives evil the initiative. When the doors start being kicked in gun owners probably need to consider taking it to those breaking the law, and hard. I pray to God Democrats don’t force this evil and war upon America but they tend to do such things when their ideals fail, slavery, socialism, communism are rejected. I pray this cup passes from us...


38 posted on 12/21/2019 8:12:58 AM PST by sarge83
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To: duckman

“ I will never understand why these people don’t realize bad guys are going to get guns no matter what. Same in the USA.”

....oh they realize alright, they just don’t care.


39 posted on 12/21/2019 8:15:17 AM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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To: Eddie01
Police Minister Stuart Nash blamed the government’s inability to enforce its buyback scheme on a lack of gun registration. “The problem is we just don’t know exactly how many guns are out in the community, this is why we need a register, to enable Police to better track firearms,” he said

Proof registration has only one purpose, and why we can never do it.

40 posted on 12/21/2019 8:21:18 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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