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NTSB finds excessive speed caused Tesla crash that killed 2
Washington Post / AP ^ | December 19, 2019 | Tom Krisher

Posted on 12/20/2019 9:13:08 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

Speed of over a hundred miles per hour on a curve caused a 2018 crash and fire in Florida that killed the teenage driver of a Tesla Model S and a passenger, federal investigators have concluded.

The National Transportation Safety Board, in a report released Thursday, said the battery-powered car erupted in flames after colliding with a wall, trapping two 18-year-olds. Firefighters were unable to rescue the two despite putting out the blaze less than a minute after they arrived.

Injuries from the fire that started in the car’s lithium-ion battery contributed to the two deaths, although the passenger had head and torso injuries, according to the report.

The crash killed the driver, Barrett Riley, 18, and Edgar Monserratt Martinez, 18, a front-seat passenger. Another teen was thrown from the car and injured. Families of the teens who were killed have sued Tesla. Firefighters who arrived within two minutes of being called reported intense flames and that they could see electrical arcing in the car. They attacked the fire with water and foam but could not save the two passengers inside. Pieces of the battery broke off from the vehicle.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: crash; fiew; ntsb; tesla
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Yeh....Sure I'll buy a car that bursts into flames.

I understand that if you get into a situation....don't touch nothing.

2 posted on 12/20/2019 9:18:31 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Cannot be true!
I was just recently excoriated for stating that Tesla’s are a nightmare for fire departments.
I was sent a link “Proving” that Tesla batteries are infallible.


3 posted on 12/20/2019 9:20:04 AM PST by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Hit a brick* wall at 113 mph, and it's the batteries' fault you died.

* to be fair, the type of wall is not specified in the article, it could have been a stone wall, a tip-up concrete wall, a cider block wall, or?

4 posted on 12/20/2019 9:21:46 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I am truly sorry for the loss of your Children, but your Chidren drove a car at 100 MPH on a public road... bad things happen when you do this... blaming the cars design for clear user negligence is silly.

Of course the batteries started fires when they were shorted.. That’s what happens when you short a damned battery...


5 posted on 12/20/2019 9:25:11 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Unsafe at any speed.


6 posted on 12/20/2019 9:26:37 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: Sacajaweau

Not only is there a built-in danger with a car that could burst into flames, but the batteries being in the floor of the car(as I understand)would seem to make it inherently even more dangerous.


7 posted on 12/20/2019 9:28:14 AM PST by oldtech
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To: Sacajaweau

I understand that if you get into a situation....don’t touch nothing.

Whenever a Tesla driver tailgates us, my wife and I gulp a little.

Like many drivers, we drive about 5 mph over the speed limit, which is not enough for enlightened drivers.


8 posted on 12/20/2019 9:28:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave (A FRIVOLOUS IMPEACHMENT VOTE is a SERIOUS SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY!!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You buy a a 10 year old Chrysler 300 with a 4 cylinder engine. An old minivan is not bad either. Teenagers should not get fast or new cars. They should be incentivized to one day, buy their own car. I grew up with lots of kids who got new sports cars. The lucky ones only crashed their cars. The unlucky ones were mangled or killed. I don’t know why parents do this.


10 posted on 12/20/2019 9:29:00 AM PST by poinq
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To: frllerroms

No Teslas are not the only cars that burst into flames. And they are the safest cars on the road.


11 posted on 12/20/2019 9:30:17 AM PST by poinq
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Holy Corvairs, Batman, a self-immolating car. Next up, hydrogen fires torching first responders.


13 posted on 12/20/2019 9:30:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The youths were returning from a trip to a nearby mall when the crash occurred on a road with a 30 mph speed limit and a sign warning drivers to go 25 mph around the curve, the report said. The Tesla was going 116 mph.

The driver lost control while passing another vehicle.

He must have tried to pass in the straight before the
curve, only an idiot would pass in a curve...


14 posted on 12/20/2019 9:30:44 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Really helping the environment burning those batteries!


15 posted on 12/20/2019 9:33:59 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: noiseman

“Unsafe at any speed.”

LOL...Nader is still alive. Think he will publish “Unsafe at any speed: Updated and revised edition”?


16 posted on 12/20/2019 9:34:10 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Apparently the driver was dumb as a box of rocks. Going 116 on a straight road is chancy enough because you never know what’s going to pop up in front of you (if the speed limit is 45 you’re closing on drivers in front of you at 71), but 116 on a curve marked 25 is just suicidal. Too bad he took some friends with him.


17 posted on 12/20/2019 9:35:48 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Placing metal across a battery post is like welding a fuel tank with fuel in it.

Basic safe handling is don’t do it.


18 posted on 12/20/2019 9:36:06 AM PST by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: poinq

My kid got a 1980 diesel rabbit as the first car.


19 posted on 12/20/2019 9:38:04 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Sacajaweau

well to be fair- any car can burst into flames- although I think the battery driven ones might be more susceptible perhaps


20 posted on 12/20/2019 9:39:51 AM PST by Bob434
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