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POINTS TO PONDER The Senate represents states, not people. That’s the problem
vox.com ^ | Oct 13, 2018 | Hans Noel w/ research assistant Julia Vitter

Posted on 12/17/2019 3:57:27 PM PST by Liz

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To: Liz

Sounds like they’re a half step away from arguing that the Constitution is unconstitutional.


41 posted on 12/17/2019 5:12:39 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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The idiot that wrote this has a obviously not heard of the tyranny of the majority.


42 posted on 12/17/2019 5:14:50 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Liz
Across a wide range of measures, he shows that Americans see themselves as Americans first, citizens of their states second.

This guy has obviously never been to Texas. As a fifth-generation Texan, it’s alway easy to spot the transplants. Native Texans will call themselves ‘Texans’. Transplants will initially called themselves ‘Americans’ or some other nationality.

Eventually, everyone will say, I’m from ..... but I came to Texas as fast as I could.

43 posted on 12/17/2019 5:19:29 PM PST by beancounter13
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17th amendment is one of the most destructive events to the country that was ever enacted. A direct attack on the electoral college parallel responsibility. With the electoral college, it is the states that put the president in the office, not the popular vote. Before the 17th amendment it was the states that signed federal laws that came to the Senate from the House. Now the Senate is just another version of the House thieving power from the states.


44 posted on 12/17/2019 5:33:14 PM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: Liz

This dope thinks we are a democracy.

Unless you are a voter at a town meeting in a little rural town hall in VT, you are living in a republic.


45 posted on 12/17/2019 5:35:04 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: FoxInSocks

The Senate has nor represented States since the ratification of the 17th Amendment except for purposes of populating the Electoral College every four years.


46 posted on 12/17/2019 5:43:37 PM PST by arthurus (V)
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To: Liz

used to, until popular election. facts don’t matter.


47 posted on 12/17/2019 5:56:15 PM PST by griffin
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To: Ancesthntr

The way I understand it, learned her on this website, is that Senators were to be appointed by the Governors, elected by the people, in every state. (Checks and balances).

Hence, how the system is so messed up. Otherwise Hillary would probably never have been elected to the Senate (of NY)in the first place. Weird but, true.


48 posted on 12/17/2019 6:40:49 PM PST by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: Concentrate

learned this. My apologies.


49 posted on 12/17/2019 6:44:05 PM PST by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: Liz

We (the US collectively) screwed up representation of the States when senators were elected and not appointed.


50 posted on 12/17/2019 7:21:51 PM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: Fiddlstix
Kill The 17th & The 16th Too

Agreed. 1913 was a really bad year for the Republic.

51 posted on 12/18/2019 9:11:13 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: Liz

The Senate no longer represents the states. That ended with the 17th amendment to the Constitution, when the Senators were elected by popular vote instead of being selected by the state legislatures. Now, the Senate represents the people just like the House of Representatives.


52 posted on 12/18/2019 10:09:03 AM PST by MisterMagic
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To: Liz

The Democrats should just rewrite the Constitution and do what they can to make it happen.

They could take a shortcut and just adopt the one North Korea has.


53 posted on 12/18/2019 10:16:41 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: Liz

Ignoramuses.


54 posted on 12/18/2019 10:46:55 AM PST by Wuli
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Needs to Read Plato


55 posted on 12/18/2019 2:02:38 PM PST by elbook
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