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1 posted on 12/14/2019 10:15:32 AM PST by a little elbow grease
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And this is one reason I like the quick dismiss version for the Senate. See the article about what Trey Gowdy recommended.

This can go both ways and there are merits to a trial vs a quick dismissal.

But either way the GOPe can screw this up for Trump. Remember many GOPe are guilty as hell and don’t want the corruption to be exposed or end.


2 posted on 12/14/2019 10:17:31 AM PST by for-q-clinton
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A removal has serious potential for starting a civil war. I don’t say this flippantly at all.


3 posted on 12/14/2019 10:18:49 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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Yes. The shadow government is behind the curtain. They have much to lose if Trump remains in office.


4 posted on 12/14/2019 10:19:10 AM PST by blackdog
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Trap for the deep state?


8 posted on 12/14/2019 10:21:10 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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I believe little of what the Hill reports.


11 posted on 12/14/2019 10:23:58 AM PST by boomop1 (Term limits is the only way to change this failed government.)
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Is a trap being set for Trump in the Senate trial?

It's a valid question. And bolton is a wild card who I believe wants to hurt Trump. But if Trump does not take this opportunity to expose the state department and the so called intelligence agencies, it may never happen. But I'm really confused why the house dems would even risk exposure of said agencies, it just does not add-up to me.
12 posted on 12/14/2019 10:24:16 AM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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I like the idea of a quick dismissal. As much as I want to see Hunter Biden and Adam Schiff called up to testify under oath in the Senate I think if they dismissed quickly and then stated we are now moving onto the peoples business which is USMCA, health care reform and any new trade deal with China they will show who wants to legislate and who wants to obstruct.

When we take back the house, they can investigate the corrupt practices of Adam Schiff head in the next Congress.


13 posted on 12/14/2019 10:24:37 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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It has become painfully evident that a corrupt state exists underneath our elected representatives. That unelected state is administrative inside every agency. The State Department and our embassies have become pay to play whore houses full of money launderers.

Ron Brown died with the blueprints. It's bigger than Wall street at this point.

18 posted on 12/14/2019 10:25:44 AM PST by blackdog
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Is a trap being set for Trump in the Senate trial?

Every scenario should be considered.

There may be snakes in the grass ready and willing to strike.

19 posted on 12/14/2019 10:27:02 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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... I like the quick dismiss version for the Senate...

I absolutely agree.

20 posted on 12/14/2019 10:27:19 AM PST by gloryblaze
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The Supreme Court Judge (who presides over the impeachment trial) could look at the two charges and say that, in each case, they are within the power of the executive branch and rule the impeachment null and void . . . end of story.


21 posted on 12/14/2019 10:27:32 AM PST by impactplayer
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A trap is set and waiting. But it’s not for Trump.


24 posted on 12/14/2019 10:28:45 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Any GOP swnator who votes for removal is DONE.


25 posted on 12/14/2019 10:29:44 AM PST by Signalman
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There are some traitors in the Republican Party who would vote for Trump’s removal. Romney comes to mind. But not 20 of them.

This article is, I believe, a scare tactic to get Trump supporters in the Senate to toss out the case without having a trial. In a trial, key Democrats, and probably a few Republicans, are in danger of having some light cast on activities that would make them uncomfortable.


27 posted on 12/14/2019 10:29:58 AM PST by Rocky
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So, if I understand this guy, he thinks it is more likely that 20 GOP vote to impeach after hearing weeks of testimony that not merely debunks the House's charade, but also exposes Schiff for the fraud he is, than if they just go for a quick dismissal?

I'd prefer Trump to go for the jugular. Expose the corruption. The chips fall where they may. The risk is worth it, no?

28 posted on 12/14/2019 10:30:04 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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29 posted on 12/14/2019 10:30:22 AM PST by LucyT
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Any way you cut it, a trial legitimatizes the biased, unfair, and fabricated charges. A trial will include Democrat Senators spewing their same usual crap to an adoring press and that, not Trumps side of the story is all you’ll hear on MSM and cable. And I want Humper Biden’s ass in a real courtroom where he goes to jail not as a school play intended to humiliate a family that is beyond humiliation.

It will be a short “trial” followed by a vote to acquit, over and done with as quickly as possible.

If nothing else, everyone should understand that information presented at a Senate trial about spygate conspirators would only serve to compromise their eventual prosecution in a real court after Durham’s work is finished.


31 posted on 12/14/2019 10:33:22 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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What would the dem party have done if the GOP had put obama up for trial and impeached him?

Ya think they would have let it happen?


35 posted on 12/14/2019 10:35:51 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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I have worried about the Senate pulling a fast one for this reason: They HATE Trump and they may think that we will scream...but do little.

They may think they can preserve the status quo by steamrollering us and plugging their ears.


39 posted on 12/14/2019 10:37:36 AM PST by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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>>Over the past week, I have heard from three seasoned Republicans who fear that President Trump and the West Wing are seriously underestimating the potential danger of a Senate trial.<<

I believe there are many who are seriously underestimating the danger of removing our President from office.


41 posted on 12/14/2019 10:37:39 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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