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Virginia National Guard responds after Democratic lawmaker suggests it may be needed to enforce gun control measures
The Hill ^ | 12 13 2019 | Owen Daugherty

Posted on 12/14/2019 8:40:40 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: SIDENET

“He would be activating them for state use, not nationalizing them.”

Roger that. Thanks for the clarification.


21 posted on 12/14/2019 9:09:01 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: yesthatjallen

It took the prog just one week to resort to the storm trooper “solution.”

Proglibs NEVER change.

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22 posted on 12/14/2019 9:12:07 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: yesthatjallen

Interesting how sanctuary areas for guns are bad, but A-OK for protecting illegal alien scum.


23 posted on 12/14/2019 9:15:14 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (20 FReepin' years of Freakin' FReeping!!! FReep yeah!)
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To: yesthatjallen

You want to come after gun owners with The National Guard?

Their necks will be permanently kinked from looking over their shoulders forever.


24 posted on 12/14/2019 9:17:16 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: DCBryan1
POTUS: This is President Trump, I just federalized all your National Guard/Reserve Troops in your state and ordered them to go home.

No no no. Order them to occupy all sanctuary cities and detain any and all who refuse in enforce federal immigration law.

This works both ways.

25 posted on 12/14/2019 9:18:09 AM PST by usurper ( version)
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To: PROCON; Jack Black
Remember, they are NOT going to come door to door for your AR-15.

That is just a right wing pipe dream they have when they get together at their Quarterly (now illegal) Militia Training.

26 posted on 12/14/2019 9:19:44 AM PST by KC_Lion
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To: yesthatjallen
The President is the ultimate commander...the "Commander-In-Chief"...of *all* uniformed member of the Armed Forces.That includes active duty,retired,Reserves and Army and Air National Guard.

It would take the President about 5 minutes...and one phone call...to "Federalize" the Virginia Army National Guard.

27 posted on 12/14/2019 9:21:18 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: Afterguard

Guard units are “nationalized” when called up by the federal government. Northam is Virginia’s governor, not the US President. He can call up the VNG for major emergencies, respond to invasions, etc. Ordinary policing, probably not. Only scenario for VNG related to Northam’s anti-2ndA agenda would be a large scale armed insurrection.


28 posted on 12/14/2019 9:23:27 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: KC_Lion

If they violated constitutional laws that would be one thing. But Northam is referring to unconstitutional laws. Which no one has an obligation to obey and he has no authority to enforce.

If he attempts to use force to enforce unconstitutional laws then any resistance, passive or violent, is legally Justified. I think it would be accurate to say such resistance would be encouraged by the Constitution.


29 posted on 12/14/2019 9:38:21 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: yesthatjallen

Virginia NATIONAL Guard. The 2nd is NATIONAL law.


30 posted on 12/14/2019 9:41:14 AM PST by bgill
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To: yesthatjallen

If there was any possibility that the guard would refuse the the governor’s orders in this instance, they would have responded with something like, “ we would have to wait for the courts to confirm the legality of the National Guard doing such a thing”.

This response is pretty much a guarantee that they would do just what they were ordered to do.

All of that said, this was nothing more than a statement attempting to intimidate local leaders coming out in favor of 2nd Amendment sanctuaries. I don’t believe the legislature or the governor has the balls to do such a thing. Because in order to do so they would have to believe that no serious resistance would occur. And I think they probably realize that there would be genuine armed resistance and shooting. I think they also realize that once the killing starts all bets are off.

But I think the day is coming when they will cease to believe we will stand up to them. And then they will do just what they say.


31 posted on 12/14/2019 9:47:57 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: yesthatjallen

They don’t need to come to your door to get your guns. All they need to do is wait until they discover you have one and then confiscate your house and entire personal property in criminal forfeiture like they do with cars and money when they find illegal drugs.


32 posted on 12/14/2019 9:49:40 AM PST by Gritty (Trump Derangement Syndrome is the country fracturing into warring alien tribes - Daniel Greenfield)
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To: yesthatjallen

Gun banners like to believe that if they pass a law requiring guns to be turned in, that gun owners will turn them in because they are ‘law abiding’ and not at all like criminals.

One wonders how many of these NG troops they plan on sending door to door to confiscate firearms own the firearms they’re being sent to confiscate?


33 posted on 12/14/2019 9:52:58 AM PST by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: yesthatjallen

We have plenty of laws on the book that are ignored.


34 posted on 12/14/2019 9:59:02 AM PST by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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To: Afterguard

Calling up the NG is not “nationalizing” them.

Nationalizing a NG outfit means the Feds take over not some blackface wearing Governor.


35 posted on 12/14/2019 10:22:47 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (We need a consent decree for the FBI like Obama' DOJ was slaping on all those police agencies.)
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To: chopperk

If they had bothered to vote, most of this crap would not be happening. Low GOP turnout in areas were the results were very close decided the fate of Virginia.


36 posted on 12/14/2019 10:24:22 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: yesthatjallen

OK. Call out the New York, California, Oregon, Illinois and whatever other national guards there are to enforce US immigration law, then.


37 posted on 12/14/2019 10:27:36 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Realistically, they wouldn’t obey an unconstitutional law, because they live there and eventually have to come home to their families. The USSR would never send in locals to do dirty work for this reason.


38 posted on 12/14/2019 10:28:52 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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To: KC_Lion

“”If we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be some consequences,” Northam said Thursday, according to WSET. “

And if SCOTUS says the law is unconstitutional, you’ll use the VA National Guard for what, exactly? To secede?


39 posted on 12/14/2019 10:29:07 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: rktman

Yes, Virginia will not only secede, but set out to conquer Maryland and seize the Capitol. That’ll show that yankee rail-splitter what fer! Nobody’ll take away our slaves, or let them get their cotton-pickin’ hands on guns.


40 posted on 12/14/2019 10:31:18 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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