Lon Horiuchi retired from the FBI and went to work as some exec at a company making long range shooting stuff.
Posted on 12/13/2019 4:00:28 PM PST by rintintin
He just seemed the type. He lived with his mother. He had lots of guns in the house. He dreamed of being a police officer. He wanted to be important. He knew everything about bombs. And so, for 88 days Richard Jewell — who was not only an innocent man, but a hero, who’d saved lives — had his own life torn apart, when he became the prime suspect in the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta. 1996.
“Richard Jewell,” which tells his story, is a suspenseful, beautifully composed film from Clint Eastwood, his finest since “Hereafter” (2010) — and probably the best film ever made by an 89-year-old director. Eastwood has not yet entered the beautiful miniature stage of his career. He is not even Matisse making collages. “Richard Jewell” tells a grand-scale American story of a kind that this filmmaker is known for.
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Lon Horiuchi retired from the FBI and went to work as some exec at a company making long range shooting stuff.
Saw it today. Highly recommend it.
PatCon - Short for Patriot Conspiracy, it was an FBI plot to infiltrate ALL patriot groups deemed dangerous.
Starts getting interesting about 10 paragraphs down:
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/policy-papers/patcon/
Basically after HRC and Bubba got into office, the Feds went NUTSO and spend vast sums and recruited tons of cops and whackos to get into different groups and bust them ALL.
I trust some of them genuinely were dangerous whackos but also a lot of groups merely distrustful of Big Government were also swept up in it.
PatCon was highly ambitious and probably involved law enforcement INDUCING crime and nuttiness —some people think OkBomb was a part of that, that it was a failure of law enforcement at the Murrah Building.
Omg. Does the movie deal with that???
The movie does not get into OkBomb, Waco, Ruby Ridge or Bojinka at all.
However a likely broader effect of the movie might be a general malaise about some FBI tactics.
I would say that discomfort might have been somewhat amplified in some quarters owing to the seemingly endless The Coup, since so many aspects of it appear to involve the FBI and their various flunkies.
So the scope of the movie really is confined to Richard Jewell, does not go off into what was going on with the Clintons.
That’s unfortunate because it really was THEM, principally Hillary, putting pressure on the FBI to dispose of the case as quickly as possible and somewhere in the chain the decision became, “Well, we’ll just put it all on this fatty simpleton”.
Umm....I think Eastwood did that because of marketing consideration$ which I mostly sympathize with:
A lot of people going to movies don’t like cops but DO like liberal politics and dwelling on the Clintons would probably turn a lot of tho$e people off.
Ummm....a movie is a biz plan, so....you have to tell a story and be honest, but perhaps not quite so honest that you tick off a whole ton of ticket buyers.
The movie was good, that I will say. I’m happy I saw it.
YOU would love it, I think all Freepers will.
I re-read my answer and I think I was incomplete:
The movie also does not touch on PatCon, a twisted and yuge story that is STILL mostly untold, a real rabbit hole that will fascinate and scare you and suck up a lot of your time.
A good related source a long time ago was the John Doe 2 Times, written by a retired lawyer who I believe is now deceased.
That guy is a TOTAL hero and now rests eternally in obscurity.
For a long time at FR a lot of people were saying that one of the other perps was a guy named, Mike or Mark Brescia —we had people who even got his street address and called him up about it, pretty amazing stuff.
There were people here who were AHEAD of the feds on this, maybe, I think.
The feds tried to kill their agent, a once beauty blonde queen who got wrapped up with anti-gummint whackos; she knew exactly how much the authorities had known pre-blast, she was amazed that in the end the building ended up somehow destroyed:
She became a yuuuuuge liability for them, as she could have exposed how much the feds had actually known. I can’t remember her name, only that she was super hot.
I don’t know where she is today but several different times they opened fire on her, I don’t understand how she survived. It seems weird she wasn’t killed.
Did they want her dead?
yes.
“Even Hannity is coming around. He used to say, ‘99.99% if the FBI are great patriots!’”
He mentioned it again tonight, but — you’re right — he did it quickly in passing and wasn’t so adamant about it.
“the FBI as they simply are criminal cowards.”
The cowardice, mixed with maximum arrogance and unlimited power, is a horrendous combination.
I liked “The Beguiled”.
I think it would be fine for older kids — 12+ maybe. Not because of bad language, violence (except for the bombing itself which is short but necessary), or sex. They’d understand the unfairness of the situation. Younger kids probably wouldn’t.
After seeing this, I think I need to see “Little Women” just to calm me down.
Olivia Wilde is a child of journalists? I thought she’s a trust fund baby, and one of the wealthiest women in Hollywood — an heiress or something. Must’ve been thinking of someone else.
Yeah; that line in the movie made the FBI guy speechless and was one of the high points of the movie.
Something I thought was ironic is that Jewell, who wasn’t a genius, got a clue when they tried to talk him in to signing something. It didn’t feel right, and he demanded a lawyer (which they didn’t want to give him). He got a bad feeling and refused to do it. The FBI played Flynn basically the same way they played Jewell, but Flynn just kept talking, they told him he didn’t need a lawyer, so he just kept talking.
"The TWA Flight 800 Cover-up"
"The Death of Ron Brown"
"The Sinking of the Ehime Maru"
This is a good place to record this:
Remember Operation Fast & Furious, the purported plan to “research who was smuggling American guns to narco-gangs”..?
Kay, let’s put aside the extremely suspicious fact that ZERO technical provisions were made for GPS tracking the guns, okay, something that is pretty amazing.
Naturally the gun shops in the US southwest that the Feds would prevail on to sell these guns —they would have to be witting to the fact that this was an OPERATION, right? And at evvvery juncture the Feds would reassure them after they made super sketchy gun sales to scumbags:
“Hey, this feels weird and illegal as hell, yeah, but it’s all a part of the PLAN. We are ASKING you to do this, you are not breaking the law as we see it, you are helping us...”
But see, there was soooo many of these icky-feeling gun deals that some gun guys were worried about it:
“How can we be sure at some point in the future the Feds up and claim that we had not BEEN ASKED to do all this sketchy sh*t...?”
They got suspicious and scared.
And one or two of these patriotic, law-abiding gun shops did go ahead and secretly RECORD the Feds TELLING THEM to do this stuff, that it was okay.
And lo and behold, at later point the feds DID TRY to claim that the law-breaking of the gun-craving Narco baddies had been actively and eagerly ABETTED by greedy, “out-of-control gun dealers in the American Southwest”.
The Feds begged gun shops for help against cartels, then pulled a switcheroo on them, later.
The gun shops only saved themselves by DISTRUSTING the feds who had asked for their help.
The Feds actually planned to...
1. Enable mass murder by narcos
2. Make gun shops look bad, as if they were greedy & out-of-control
3. Generate headlines that would work against the US Constitution
Oh, the Feds also got another Fed KILLED. Yeah, there’s that.
Scruggs was an flirty alcoholic who hung around cop bars. Its not out of the question that she might have been sleeping with sources.
Saw it tonight. Could have done without all the F**kins, GD’s, Sh!ts, etc., etc., etc. (but, then again I’m not a cusser) Otherwise, enjoyed and found extremely interesting.
The 15:17 To Paris was kind of MEH, I thought.
I thought I would totally love it 100%.
I did like it but I guess my pre-see expectations had been elevated to the clouds, maybe.
This one is much better than that one.
I loved Gran Torino, and many others.
I have to say this because it would be wrong of me not to. There are 3 FBI agents who are my heros. It was their integrity, truthfulness, attention to detail, adherence to the letter of the law and tranparence as human beings who put them into that category. And it’s because of their scrupulousness to those above mentioned categorizations that the case they were in charge of saw justice served in the courts on the case they were working on.
All of my life I saw and experienced what misuse of authority and the abuses look like, so I know it very well, and I despise it whether that abuse is occurring to me, or someone else.
I’ve also seen the absolute value in letting the guilty parties have enough rope with which to hang themselves, as well as the strict adherence to the constitutional provisions afforded to criminals in a procedure.
The value to strict adherence to constitutional protections means that when it goes to court, is heard and judged, there is no contesting it. It’s a good solid conviction. And yes, I’ve also seen corruption and deception in the courts. Just this week, in fact where a district attorney posed as court appointed defense councel. A woman was convicted of a crime she didn’t commit. But, she now has the right to appeal and a whole host of other complaints.
All of society is damaged when lack of integrity reigns whithin it at any level.
When a basket of apples in my storage has spoiling, I remove the bad ones, wash the good ones, and take care to protect them from any further contamination.
Yes, there are bad apples in every single organization in our society which means they come up from among the common every day individual.
The rot might come from the top down, but the seeds of that rot come from the bottom. From the every day person. That is where the cleansing needs to begin otherwise, there isn’t a poll of good people to replace the rotten ones with.
One of the SA’s I knew also conducted interviews with applicants to the organization. He was appauled by the number of social idiots ( my phrase..not his) applying. Instead of saying for example..I don’t recall at this time, they said..I had a brain fart.
Sadly, the corruption within the FBI and other intelligence organizations has been there since their inception..ie...J. E. Hoover.
Unless and until all of society is cleaned up, the corruption will continue to prevail.
Just so you know, this post isn’t aimed specifically at you, but really, toward those whom I’ve seen expressing similar sentiments over time.
A fellow officer I worked with was shot twice while chasing some turds who just robbed a bank. He was very lucky to survive. There was a rash of banks being robbed in the area. The FBI was in the area doing surveillance due a tip. Of course the FBI did not alert the local agencies about the tip. If they did I think the outcome would have been different. He suffered PTSD after the shooting and let the demons win.
I am on a police message forum that is not for the faint of heart. Mostly older retired guys so they don’t care what they post. Feds join now and they but don’t last long because they get butt hurt when Ruby Ridge and Waco are talked about. They ain’t Boy Scouts they are freaking Cub Scouts.
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