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Good read on Senate impeachment trial procedure.
1 posted on 12/13/2019 11:20:41 AM PST by jazusamo
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I sure hope Trump is not being set up here. The RINOs in the Senate could very easily side with the DEMs, and Trump couldn’t do a damn thing about it. And neither would conservatives.


2 posted on 12/13/2019 11:23:11 AM PST by CatOwner
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A senate acquittal would be a mistake. It needs to be tried in the senate and handled fairly.
If there is a quick acquittal, the dems may revisit a trial when they are in power again and pull the same totalitarian tricks they did in the congressional hearings.


3 posted on 12/13/2019 11:23:12 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: jazusamo

It needs to be tried fairly in the senate.


4 posted on 12/13/2019 11:23:59 AM PST by ArtDodger
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5 posted on 12/13/2019 11:24:37 AM PST by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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Before you can even legitimate get to the Senate to try the impeachment charges, you have to have a constitutional and legitimate impeachment process which this is not.

Explanation:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3800593/posts?page=48#48


6 posted on 12/13/2019 11:26:20 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: jazusamo
you are right...great read on the proceedings.This will be bookmarked.
I'm guessing there will be a lot of votes, based on this:

"All motions, objections, and requests go to the presiding officer, who is given the power to “rule on all questions of evidence including, but not limited to, questions of relevancy, materiality, and redundancy.” Those rulings can be overturned only if a senator objects and asks for a formal vote by the entire Senate – and no debate is allowed."
12 posted on 12/13/2019 11:32:06 AM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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The Committee Democrats approved the impeachment articles because they’re all insane haters, but the rest of the Democrat House members may be more realistic ...

“Obstruction of Congress” was always a real stretch anyways, the courts never ruled on any of the subpoenas because the Dems never gave them a chance, they were in such a rush to get this whole thing done by Christmas.

So, I could easily see the House refusing that charge, and JUST sending the “abuse of power” charge to the Senate


17 posted on 12/13/2019 11:36:42 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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23 posted on 12/13/2019 11:44:22 AM PST by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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This is what is more than likely going to happen:

https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-senate-decline-try-impeachment-case?fbclid=IwAR1cxg4Pvsn-iFX5bxiD4GiGEulPE5nvSPYte87OPvUAkLVE5izmCQVUkIM


27 posted on 12/13/2019 12:04:25 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Jaz I suspect Democrats wanted a show trial... wanted to beat up Trump for the cameras - - ‘soften’ him up before the election. I doubt they’ll vote this to the Senate - democrats would be exposed for what they REALLY are if this got to the Senate. They won’t take that risk.

We’ll see - it’s only a guess.


28 posted on 12/13/2019 12:05:32 PM PST by GOPJ (Will Chris Wallace kiss Comey's butt on-air? - Or after the show's over"... (Sunday Morning))
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By their actions today on Trump impeachment, Pelosi, Schiff & Nadler have lost the 2020 POTUS election to POTUS, Donald J. Trump and have effectively destroyed the Democrat Party politically...period!!!


39 posted on 12/13/2019 1:23:26 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forev er!!!)
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The procedure for the “trial” is in the Senate rules, which the Senate may change. As the rules currently stand, the Speaker (Pelosi) will appoint impeachment “managers” who will act as prosecutors. However, it seems to me that McConnell could ram through a rules change depriving Pelosi of that appointment power. (Why the heck not?) Perhaps, the rules could be changed such that McConnell himself would appoint the managers... (Jim Jordan?)


44 posted on 12/13/2019 2:27:32 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: jazusamo
I disagreed with Lindsey Graham when he suggested a very short "trial". Now I agree with him.

Lindsey Graham has all the power necessary to hold hearings to eliminate the Deep State. He can subpoena witnesses and have the Supreme Court authorize them.

I believe that it would be a mistake to turn an impeachment trial into such a vehicle. This would give the Dems the cover of claiming that their wish to call witnesses was of a special sort due to the extreme importance of the impeachment process. They could well force the testimony of every person in the Trump administration or put them into the poor position of having to ignore the Supreme Court or to take the fifth.

I believe that there is more protection for Executive Privilege outside of an impeachment proceeding. Otherwise, we turn an impeachment trial into the world's most powerful fishing expedition.

I don't believe that the Supreme Court would interfere if the Senate decides to simply dismiss the matter. The Chief Justice's role would simply be to certify that a majority of the Senate voted to dismiss.

58 posted on 12/13/2019 6:18:34 PM PST by William Tell
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