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Saudi Sympathies Ring Hollow After Pensacola Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | December 12, 2019 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 12/12/2019 5:03:50 AM PST by Kaslin

If it walks like a duck ... you know the rest.

Following a shooting attack at Naval Air Station Pensacola by a Saudi national identified as 21-year-old Mohammed Alshamrani, the FBI issued a statement saying it presumes the incident was a terrorist attack.

What might have given them that idea?

If profiling were not politically incorrect, authorities might have done a deeper dive into Alshamrani's background. First, he was a Muslim from Saudi Arabia, from which 15 of the 9/11 hijackers came. It is a nation that promotes the most radical form of Islam, known as Wahhabism, which is taught to some Saudi children in Wahhabi schools. The new leadership in Saudi Arabia has pledged to clean up its textbooks, but convincing evidence is yet to be provided.

Second, Alshamrani and several other Saudi students at the base reportedly watched a video of mass shootings before Alshamrani committed his evil deed.

Any one of these should have raised concerns and prompted an investigation.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper and several members of Congress have rightly called for a review of vetting procedures for foreign nationals at American training facilities, but it will take more than that.

After making the requisite statement that not all Muslims are terrorists, let me suggest that the motivations of those who are terrorists require a more serious combat strategy for the protection of innocents.

The U.K. has had a program for some time designed to "de-radicalize" people arrested on terrorism charges. The problem with that, as terrorist expert Steve Emerson writes on his investigativeproject.org website: "Of the 400+ Islamic terrorists released in recent years, nearly 70 percent refused to take part in any de-radicalization program while incarcerated." CARTOONS | Steve Kelley View Cartoon

Emerson notes that the teachable moment (why do we need more?) of Usman Khan, who was on supervised early release from prison when he killed two people and wounded several others Nov. 29 near London Bridge, and the ineffectiveness of "rehabilitation" programs for these radicals: "Many of those who did participate in a rehabilitation program may not be truly de-radicalized."

President Trump says he spoke with Saudi Arabia's King Salman Al-Saud after the killings, and that the king expressed his sincere condolences and has promised to compensate relatives of the dead and those who were wounded in the attack, but that's not enough. Yes, Saudi Arabia is an important ally in its opposition to the Iranian regime, but it has yet to be held accountable for the 2018 murder of Saudi businessman and Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi agents at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey.

Unless Saudi Arabia has a conversion moment that credibly repudiates the extreme wing of Islam it has practiced and taught for decades, one has a right, even a duty, to question its sincerity in the matter of the Pensacola killer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: saudiarabia
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1 posted on 12/12/2019 5:03:50 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What really surprised me was when authorities said they’ve suspended the 140 saudi flight students from flight class!

140!!!!?????

We’re training ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY MUSLIMS for flying!!!!???

We must be idiots.


2 posted on 12/12/2019 5:09:23 AM PST by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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Didn’t we train the 9-11 guys somewhere here? Why are we training these guys on our planes. Is the next one going to crash one of them into something on purpose?


3 posted on 12/12/2019 5:13:55 AM PST by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: Kaslin

Well, at least its something more than whisking them out of the US back to Saudi like what happened after 9/11.


4 posted on 12/12/2019 5:15:33 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kaslin
Where are the other missing ones Muzzles from this FL terror cell ?
Are they still loose ?

Who did the vetting fir these US hating Muzzies ?
The Muslim brotherhood invested Obama admin staff ?
Trump
made a huge mistake not killing all these programs .
We still hundreds of Afghans suspects who were never found here from these programs .

Pure insanity

5 posted on 12/12/2019 5:17:23 AM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists)
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To: JPJones
We must be idiots.

Unfortunately, we are - at least those making these decisions (which were probably made a long time ago).

Upper echelons of the military are mostly political animals - don't look for relief there.

This can only be turned around, IMHO, by POTUS, who has diplomatic minefields to negotiate as well.

It all basically sucks.

6 posted on 12/12/2019 5:19:28 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Kaslin

It is way past time that we export every muslim who is not a US citizen. As for the muslims who actually are US citizens, make an offer to buy their US assets and a one-way plane ticket to Krapistan of other non-USA destination.

The cult of islam is not a religion but a socio-political battle plan. The fundamental teachings of the cult are incompatible with most societies in this century. It is beyond stupid to allow islam to proliferate in the USA.


7 posted on 12/12/2019 5:29:30 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: ncalburt

“Who did the vetting fir these US hating Muzzies ?”

I read a story about a high ranking Saudi Imam who was preaching jihad. His son left home, leaving a note that he was going to be a suicide bomber. The Imam contacted the Saudi authorities and had his son arrested to prevent him from leaving the country. The article didn’t say what happened to the son after that.

The problem is the Saudi Imams have been preaching jihad for generations. I gather from various articles they don’t consider that jihad is good for them, but, rather the great unwashed masses who are not “them.” So, instead of omitting jihad themselves, they tend to just finance it. Looking for some comparison, I suspect it is akin to the good Christian who gives generously to proselytizers who go to Africa, but does not himself go to Africa.

Now, imagine you grow up in an environment where Muslim piety is preached, but not really lived. You see the hypocrisy and want to do something that affirms the beliefs you have been taught.

I assure you, the Saudi government did not want this man to kill Americans. But Americans ARE the thing Islam is aimed against. He picked up the spoken message about what he should do, but not the unspoken message that “nonono, this is for others to actually do, not you.”

I think the present Saudi leadership would really like to change this, but making any changes in Islam is an executable offense. The execution falls to whoever is able to do it.


8 posted on 12/12/2019 5:29:38 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Kaslin

Not all Muslims are terrorists? Yeah right. Some are on the field and the rest are on the bench but make no mistake about it; they are ALL on the same team.


9 posted on 12/12/2019 5:30:57 AM PST by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: Kaslin

Muslim terrorist are the Proxy Army for passive muzzies.


10 posted on 12/12/2019 5:35:22 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: JPJones

Cancel this stupid program immediately. Send every one of these “students” back.

Today.

L


11 posted on 12/12/2019 5:37:27 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Kaslin

The shooter and his buddies were service members of the Saudi armed forces. The Kingdom is totally responsible for this.
We don’t need the Saudis any more.
Stop training Moslems in the US.
Stop selling them weapons.
Bring our troops home.
Tell Saudi Arabia’s enemies that it is “Open Season.”


12 posted on 12/12/2019 5:37:46 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: oldasrocks

“Didn’t we train the 9-11 guys somewhere here?”

At a school (non military) in Florida.


13 posted on 12/12/2019 5:41:32 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Kaslin
Saudi Sympathies Ring Hollow After Pensacola Shooting

They were not as good as the ones after 9/11?

14 posted on 12/12/2019 5:48:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

Round up all 142 and send they heads home.


15 posted on 12/12/2019 5:49:15 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: Kaslin

Still trying to make Khashoggi a martyr....


16 posted on 12/12/2019 6:13:44 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Kaslin

There is a bunch of Saudi sympathizers right on this board.


17 posted on 12/12/2019 6:25:20 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: JPJones

FOX stated we have 852 foreign nationals training on our bases.


18 posted on 12/12/2019 6:48:15 AM PST by bgill
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To: oldasrocks
Didn’t we train the 9-11 guys somewhere here?

IIRC, they trained at a For-Profit flight school and the instructors were puzzled because the Ragheads were only interested in learning to turn the planes and fly level.

In retrospect, some alarms should have been triggered. But, Jorge Busho was in office and he would have assured the school: iSlime is a religion of peace......"

19 posted on 12/12/2019 6:53:22 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: ByteMercenary

We’ve been warned...


20 posted on 12/12/2019 7:04:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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