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Democrats Suffer From Premature Adjudication
Townhall.com ^ | December 12, 2019 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 12/12/2019 3:46:38 AM PST by Kaslin

When Bill Clinton was impeached for committing perjury and obstructing justice, Democrats didn’t really burn a lot of calories trying to deny he’d done those things, he did. They spent their time insisting those things were not impeachable, that they didn’t matter because they were over “a personal matter.”

As absurd as the idea was – that the President of the United States lying under oath about getting from a young White House intern exactly what Paula Jones said he’d asked for – the Democrats declared it “little more than a personal matter” and, therefore, not impeachable.

Ultimately, he won. They won. The literal crimes of obstruction of justice and perjury were no longer impeachable offenses.

So if lying under oath and encouraging others to do the same is not impeachable, what is? And if lying to the public about your affair with a government employee for months, and using the president’s cabinet members, in their official capacity as government employees heading executive branch departments, to deny it as well (which Bill Clinton did) isn’t impeachable, what could be?

We now have our answer, from the very same people who deemed the above actions completely kosher. Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Nadler, and Maxine Waters all voted against impeaching Clinton for literal felonies, yet all were on stage Tuesday when announcing articles of impeachment against President Trump for “abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress,” neither of which are real crimes.

Someone can abuse their power in pressuring someone else to commit a crime, or get a foreign prosecutor to stop investigating a company paying their drug abusing kid millions of dollars, things like that; but it’s a tactic, not a felony.

As for “obstruction of Congress,” this one is even more absurd. Congress and the executive branch are co-equal branches of government, Congress is not superior. Congress does have oversight powers, but those powers are not absolute. When Congress sought the testimony of the president’s advisors, they were demanding access to the deliberative process of the president, confidential conversations and advice given to the president in a candid way. The reason those conversations are candid is because they are privileged. Congress has no more right to know what was said than they have a right to know what someone says in a confessional.

The president of the United States has to be able to have candid conversations with advisors, just he needs to be able to have candid conversations with other world leaders. If any president can’t trust that the conversations he has with staff and counterparts will remain private, no one will ever have candid conversations with a president. Nor should they.

For all the whining from Democrats and never-Trump “Republicans” about President Trump “destroying norms” in Washington, the ability of a president to have candid conversations with people is one norm that really matters, one that could damage national security, and they’re destroying it.

The norms being destroyed by President Trump are of decorum – he’s rude, sometimes, back to people who’ve attacked him first. The norms the left are destroying are fundamental to a president’s ability to do their job. They may not care about that when the president’s name is “Trump,” but they will when whatever the name of a future president is if their name is followed by a (D).

They judged President Trump guilty of something, and have been scrambling from the moment he set foot on that escalator to find what it was. But each path they’ve gone down – Russian collusion, bribery, treason, general corruption, emoluments clause violations, getting two scoops of ice cream when everyone else only gets one – ended up being dead ends.

They have nothing, but they also have an election next year. Facing a booming economy, amazingly low unemployment and huge wage growth Democrats swore to us was impossible when they were in charge, they need something. After all, can’t have Democrat voters wondering how the economy, which they were promised would be ruined by a Trump presidency, is doing so well. Their efforts to retroactively credit President Obama were always laughable, but it’s gut-bustingly hilarious when they swore each new move Trump made would only make things worse.

Would you want to have to explain why everything you’ve said would happen didn’t, and why things are better but you want to return us to how things were when they sucked? Neither do they.

The remarkable thing about the impeachment of President Donald Trump is just how unremarkable it is. Everyone knows it’s not going anywhere, the media knows this is being done for the 2020 election. It’s so bad they made up things to accuse him of. So excited, Democrats have prematurely adjudicated; creating an awkward mess by declaring him guilty of things he didn’t do, things that aren’t even crimes. All they can do now is hope they aren’t leaving their voters too unsatisfied that next November their base doesn’t leave them to wipe up the mess alone.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demonrats; impeachment

1 posted on 12/12/2019 3:46:38 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Democrats are being led over the cliff by the Trump Pied morning Piper of Washington and they don’t even see it coming.

Sucks to be them.


2 posted on 12/12/2019 3:51:57 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin; All

Yes and even if Trump is impeached
the odds are against him being convicted and removed.This is an attempt to damage his reputation and swing some electoral vote states.(They also have the false hope of getting rid of the electoral college).

A reminder of the last impeachment
_trial before the Senate_ results
from Wikipedia:(Bill Clinton)

>>A two-thirds vote, 67 votes, would have been necessary to convict and remove the President from office. The perjury charge was defeated with 45 votes for conviction and 55 against, and the obstruction of justice charge was defeated with 50 for conviction and 50 against. Senator Arlen Specter voted “not proved” for both charges, which was considered by Chief Justice Rehnquist to constitute a vote of “not guilty”. All 45 Democrats in the Senate voted “not guilty” on both charges, as did five Republicans; they were joined by five additional Republicans in voting “not guilty” on the perjury charge.


(Satire site—)Headline:
Networks Cancel Impeachment Inquiry
Due To Low Ratings


3 posted on 12/12/2019 4:08:42 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Kaslin

“destroying norms”

Draining the Swamp, but from the Swamp’s point of view.


4 posted on 12/12/2019 5:27:20 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Kaslin
Or,perhaps,they suffer from "ED"

ELECTORAL DYSFUNCTION


5 posted on 12/12/2019 5:53:28 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: Kaslin
Democrats Suffer From Premature Adjudication

Democrats Suffer From Premature Adjudication Adulation.

6 posted on 12/12/2019 5:57:20 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: Kaslin

President Clinton’s naughtiness in the Oval Office was not just a stupid sex mistake. If a foreign enemy had gotten to Monica and told her that they would help her marry Clinton but that she would have to give them some help then who knows what damage she could have caused.


7 posted on 12/12/2019 6:39:37 AM PST by HChampagne (Cruz supporter but I will support and vote for Trump.)
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To: Kaslin

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t that “little personal thing” enough to get billy jeff disbarred? Perjury is a serious offense by any officer of the court but particularly by the person who oversees the Justice Department.


8 posted on 12/12/2019 7:04:13 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Kaslin

https://spectator.org/impeachment-vote-will-cost-these-dems-their-seats/


9 posted on 12/12/2019 9:17:55 AM PST by KeyLargo
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