Either we change the narrative and prove it or they win. There is no middle ground.
“Did your investigation identify any evidence President Obama ordered the FBI to tap Donald Trump’s phone?”
Why didn’t they ask if Trump’s phones were tapped? That, not the narrow question of Obama’s involvement, is the real question.
Horowitz has been investigating the Carter Page FISA warrant process, not what was done by the overall IC or even the FBI in other contexts. The IG report is based on skillful inconvenient evidence avoidance.
I think we have known for a long time that Trump says stuff that isn’t literally true. He loves to talk, and usually there is some kernel of truth somewhere, but this is just how things are.
"yes" or "no"!?!?!?!?
Simple question for the Democrat Fascist Party Politicians and their submissive toadies in the Fake News.
Change none of the detailed in this “report” but this. Candidate Obama in place of Candidate Trump.
Stop mindless fanboi behavior for “your team” and think about that hard Democrats.
Really think this sort of criminal corruption in the legal arm of the US Govt is “No big deal” just because it was “your team” that was doing it?
Horowitz, you jerk. Obama kept you out of the loop. He needed you
as cover in case of a hearing. Now go get your reward like a good doggy.
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HOW did the corrupt FBI get EVERYONE to fall in line with their COUP? Easy.
THE AWAN CLAN, employed by about 35 House members, were SPYING ON EVERYONE:
<><> FISA court and US Supreme Court judges,
<><> members of Congress, etc.
<><> Reading emails, browser histories, phone conversations, etc,
THE AWANS were an Obama TOOL. They USED INCRIMINATING OR CRIMINAL
INFORMATION on vote-rigging to BLACKMAIL everyone to FALL IN LINE......OR ELSE.
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House Democraps are notorious for employing the shady Paki clan for IT work. Most of the clan absconded but the mastermind Imran Awan was tried, convicted, and got a slap on the wrist. An even bigger mystery than how the Pakis got here and got paid huge govt salaries is how the shady Pakis got visas to abscond. Did “someone” with a lot of political pull facilitate the visas to help them abscond? Some reports say the Pakis traveled on WH visas.
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Did Schiff stop at grabbing phone records of members of Congress, journalists, the courts?? We demand to know whether Schiff used govt surveillance methods or tax-paid technology to monitor the activity of individuals.....
Could be Schiff is a Cyberstalker. Cyberstalking is the use of computers or other electronic technology to facilitate stalking.
These are “criminal stalkers” perpetrating crimes against their targeted victims through electronic and online methodologies.
<><> Facebook and Apple have admitted to allowing government officials to access personal information of their account users.
<><> Schiff employed the Awans.
What AG Barr just said in an NBC interview:
I think the big picture is this. From day one… of this investigation on July 31st, 2016, and all the way to its end in September 2017, there was not one bit of incriminatory evidence to come in. It was all exculpatory … So what happens? The FBI ignores it and presses ahead. Withholds… critical exculpatory information from the [FISA] Court while it gets an electronic surveillance warrant. It withholds from the Court clear-cut evidence that the dossier that they ultimately relied on to get the FISA warrant, was a complete sham. They hid information about the lack of reliability even the first time they went for a warrant but in January after the election, the entire case collapsed after the principal source says “I never told Steele this stuff.”
... At that point, when their entire case collapsed, what do they do? They kept on investigating the president well into his administration… But here to me is the damning thing. They not only didn’t tell the court that what they were relying on was completely rubbish, they actually started putting in things to bolster the Steele report by saying, “Well, we talked to the sources and they appear to be truthful. But don’t inform the court that what they’re truthful about is that the dossier is false.”
So “the Hill” are you saying the New York Times article, published Inauguration Day 2017 laying out the wiretapping by the FBI on the Trump Campaign, that was part of the justification for Democrats demanding the Muller investigation, was a lie?
Or is the IG lying to cover up the DOJ/FBI’s corruption now?
Clinton speak. Question should have been:
Did your investigation identify any evidence President Obama anyone in the Obama administration ordered the FBI to tap Donald Trump’s phone?
Horowitz doesn’t have the clearance to qualify anything other than the FBI alone.
Nothingburger.
That is total malarkey. They had zilch, had to manufacture evidence, lie, hide exculpatory evidence and when the warrant(s) showed nothing they renewed them anyway with more lies. Just ask yourself why they would want to spy on Carter Page for a year?
Bill Barr said it in his NBC interview, the Page warrant gave them the ability to look at all of his past communications. Dan Bongino explains that a FISC Warrant gives them “3 hops” - a normal federal warrant only allows them to tap the target and whomever communicates with the target (2 hops), but the “3 hop rule” available with FISC warrants to go 1 step further, to tap the target, those who communicate with the target, and anyone who communicates with that 2nd person. This was how they tapped Trump. By targeting Page, they knew Page would have communicated with someone in the campaign, who would eventually contact, forward, carbon copy etc Trump himself.
The operation involved the entire US intelligence apparatus.
The FBI didn’t have to wiretap DT’s phones; they could have accessed the NSA data. Or the CIA. Or Echelon.
There were multitudes of ways the feds could have spied on the candidate and still preserved plausible deniability.
If the FBI did not, did the CIA?
Everyone who is in prison for any crime investigated by the FBI should demand a review and a retrial.
Which is what most certainly occurred.
“...he found no evidence the FBI wiretapped anyone other than former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page ..”
He forgot to mention he didnz’t look for any evidence. Besides, he didn’t have enough time during the 2 years dicking around on this report.
Problem: The Trump towers WAS bugged/tapped - and computers bugged. Fact. Documented...