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1 posted on 12/11/2019 7:11:55 AM PST by karpov
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No thank you, PAYWALL STREET JOURNAL.


2 posted on 12/11/2019 7:21:36 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: karpov

Horowitz spent more time learning how to write a politically correct cover up than he did investigating.


3 posted on 12/11/2019 7:24:18 AM PST by allendale (.)
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BFOTO (blinding flash of the obvious)

“More than ever it seems FBI headquarters, from which the demand originated, was under some unidentified outside pressure to spy on the Trump campaign.”

NO!!! Seriously???


6 posted on 12/11/2019 7:26:10 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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it seems FBI headquarters, from which the demand originated, was under some unidentified outside pressure to spy on the Trump campaign.

Obama, obviously. And -- as the Democrats will tell you -- no one is above the law.

7 posted on 12/11/2019 7:28:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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By putting what happened under a microscope, you get 500 pages of malfeasance and abuse of the system in such excruciating detail that most people’s eyes just glaze over. And no one is connecting it to the wider plot.

Most people don’t understand the significance of Carter Page, so 500 pages discussing his FISA warrant seem like “inside baseball”. But the Carter Page warrant was their warrant to surveil the president and his entire team, but with no obvious paper trail. It’s as if they want to surveil you, so they get a warrant on your neighbor’s brother-in-law. Crooked, but it’s what they did.


8 posted on 12/11/2019 7:32:18 AM PST by marron
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Linda is kicking their asses today. He sounds like a mean ol Prosecutor in his opening statment, and not holding anything back...


9 posted on 12/11/2019 7:34:54 AM PST by richardtavor
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The Horowitz report was carefully crafted so those pouring over it can take away from it whatever proclivities they may harbor. An accurate assessment of it (not mine) is the report is the Rorschach (test) ... it is open to interpretation and can be whatever you want to read into it.


10 posted on 12/11/2019 7:45:42 AM PST by BluH2o
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The FBI targeted citizens, thugged by SWAT team break-ins, spying, sting entrapments and other soviet style tactics knowingly with bogus evidence.

At the least those “professionals” should be treated the same.

Lives were destroyed for Hillary’s benefit then for the sake of these outright thugs who then tried to cover their tracks .

Those agents and their managers should have their families and friends subjected to the same tactics they used on others at a Minimum. Who knows what dirt could be found on these sickos


13 posted on 12/11/2019 8:04:05 AM PST by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. IOr keep people from / PC ing in ver and alway)
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Tens of thousands of hand-wringing text messages between Strzok and Page to the effect of “he (Trump) won’t win, right?” and “we have an insurance policy if he does” isn’t documentary evidence of political bias???


15 posted on 12/11/2019 8:14:31 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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One might make allowances at the very beginning that the initial concealment by the guy who altered the record that the FBI investigators might not know of Carter Pages previous work as an anti-Russian informant for the CIA - but if they’d actually been investigating him, they’d have come across it relatively early in the process. The court filings which identify him as a CI have been out there for years, and the references correlating that record to him have been widely available for quite some time.


17 posted on 12/11/2019 8:28:32 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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The Horowitz Horror Show

As a longtime denizen of The Deep State, Horowitz's main objective was to protect, as best he could, the FBI and DC establishment, and apparently this went as far as overlooking the obvious.

It's also apparent that Wray is definitely NOT the one to clean up the FBI. I suspect the FBI will continue to be a cesspool for The Deep State until the Courts begin to reverse convictions.

20 posted on 12/11/2019 8:37:25 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
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"Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, as he explains, is bound to assume good faith unless given “documentary or testimonial evidence” otherwise. Yet he has compiled a factually damning report that even a thick-headed and biased press will have to take account of.

Was it designed like a Trojan Horse? It looks safe on the cover until you look inside.
23 posted on 12/11/2019 9:29:30 AM PST by clearcarbon
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In the end, if we don’t get justice, the country will not know peace again. It’s really that simple.


24 posted on 12/11/2019 9:32:08 AM PST by Dogbert41 (Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!)
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“...a factually damning report that even a thick-headed and biased press will have to take account of.”

Demonstrably untrue. Didn’t the press parade every one of the bottom-feeding conspirators out to take a victory lap Monday evening?


31 posted on 12/11/2019 10:20:39 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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“Still unexplained, and inexplicable, is why the FBI was in a panic to eavesdrop on Mr. Page at all. Nobody could have believed Mr. Steele’s story about him.”

Someone needs to explain to the reporter how FISA eavesdropping works with the “hops”. Previously they were allowed to monitor anyone they could connect within 3 “hops” of the subject named in the warrant. I believe that changed in 2015 to only 2 “hops”. Still, 2 hops was probably sufficient for a warrant on Page to allow them to spy on every important member of the Trump campaign at the national level.


36 posted on 12/11/2019 11:11:05 AM PST by Boogieman
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Still unexplained, and inexplicable, is why the FBI was in a panic to eavesdrop on Mr. Page at all.

This very important question has not even been asked by the mainstream media, even though it is the most relevant question of the story.

39 posted on 12/11/2019 11:55:07 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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Bias is when you don’t like someone or something broader like a race or culture.

What was shown here was political actions amounting to the malice necessary for a political coup by law enforcement and intelligence arms of the Federal government against a political candidate, a political party and ultimately an elected President.

Bias? Humbug! This was far more sinister


45 posted on 12/13/2019 4:16:56 PM PST by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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