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Horowitz testimony: Live thread
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Posted on 12/11/2019 5:41:08 AM PST by janetjanet998

10 am at the Senate Committee on the Judiciary hearing: “Examining the Inspector General’s Report on Alleged Abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.”


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KEYWORDS: dojigtestimony; ighorowitz; ighorowitztestimony; livedojigtestimony; trusthorowitz; trustwray; whoreowitz
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To: Jane Long

Yes, I just posted about that too....But I think it should be on every election voters card to vote for or against.. and let the people decide. After all they claim they want to serve the people, and we pay them to do so.


381 posted on 12/11/2019 9:42:42 AM PST by caww
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To: Jane Long

Yes, I just posted about that too....But I think it should be on every election voters card to vote for or against.. and let the people decide. After all they claim they want to serve the people, and we pay them to do so.


382 posted on 12/11/2019 9:42:43 AM PST by caww
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To: maggief

I believe Horowitz also made a clarification to DiFi, the finding on bias pertains only to the opening of the investigation...


well the media has already twisted the truth. The FBI is a pure as the wind driven snow. NO Bias. Trump is a Liar! that’s what’s going on. Barr is a Trump Liar too. That’s what’s going on here.


383 posted on 12/11/2019 9:45:24 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: Jane Long

Yep!
Alexandra Kauffman Horowitz


384 posted on 12/11/2019 9:47:29 AM PST by Guenevere (Psalm 37)
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To: janetjanet998

Please Trump Jr., contact Cruz and let him know. Do it now. Please Jr.


385 posted on 12/11/2019 9:47:58 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: All
I don't know why you are all giving Horowitz such a hard time. They guy is HR for the Justice department. What did you all expect him to come out and say? The FBI is as corrupt as the day is long? His job is to defend the FBI not to indict them. If you listen carefully to what he is saying is is NOT saying that no bias existed in the decision to open Crossfire Hurricane, or that the people working on Crossfire Hurricane and the warrants for Carter Page were NOT biased. He is saying that the IG can't prove that they were biased in their motivations based what he has learned from documents and interviews. Clearly many in the FBI were biased like Peter Strzok.

He also says that the predicate standard for opening an investigation like Crossire Hurricane is ridiculously low. In fact it's so ridiculously low that it's difficult to determine bias because the standard is so low. This is why the FISA warrants are different, they have a much higher standard.

386 posted on 12/11/2019 9:48:34 AM PST by Smogger
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To: All

I hope someone asked why the FBI was pushing for the Dossier crap to be included into the intel briefing....

The result was a leak to the press and the rest is history


387 posted on 12/11/2019 9:50:07 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: smvoice

At some point, if this does not stop, we are going to be building boats and going BACK to England.


well the republicans are screwing this hearing big time.
Are any of these guys real lawyers that know how to ask questions to get the answers? Damn, I’m just a architect and I know I could ask better questions that these guys.


388 posted on 12/11/2019 9:50:42 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: mewzilla
"A prediction: If Deep State isn’t stopped, they will make George III and his parliament look like pikers after Trump is gone."

Indeed, I don't think there will be any justice from within the system. There will be no indictments of significant coup plotters and the clock is running out as the DOJ continues to investigate. What happened to McCabe for instance? Delay is a tactic and the Uniparty will not be dislodged by any means within the system.

389 posted on 12/11/2019 9:52:01 AM PST by Truth29
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To: patriotspride

Horowitz admitted they didn’t really research the dossier paid for the by DNC through Fusion. He weaseled on that answer that he didn’t know

You would think before he commented on political bias he would have an answer
to a dossier relied on for a FISA warrant would have been vetted as to origin and who commisioned it..

that would show a clear political tie in ( DNC - Clinton campaign ) and to me a bias if relied upon and that key fact omitted.

In Washington weasel land he probably thinks he did that but its up to us and the MSM , who never will, to connect the dots...


390 posted on 12/11/2019 9:52:16 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: caww

I had high blood pressure, fainting spells at work, and border line diabetic, so retired early at age 57. Took up playing golf 5 times every week, and now at at age 79 in better shape physically than at age 57. I consider myself very lucky to be able to join a private golf club with unlimited playing privileges with a fixed monthly fee. Quit the club 3 years ago due to moving to Florida, so no more golfing but doing the Gym routine now.


391 posted on 12/11/2019 9:52:32 AM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or for government price fixing. Can't be for both as convenient.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Don’t kid yourself. Carter Page was an FBI asset.”

Actually CIA against the Russians. His reward for taking that risk?
Well, he makes it look like Richard Jewell got off easy.

Carter Page was abused so the Deep State could get to candidate then a US President, Donald Trump.


392 posted on 12/11/2019 9:52:36 AM PST by romanesq (8Chan and its child porn, violence and murders are kaput. So is the QAnon grift with it.)
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To: entropy12

.....” But man, I feel old every morning getting out of bed”...

I avoid this by doing leg exercises while still in bed! HAHA! and I’m not even fully awake!... Also drink a full glass of water or two right away to clear out toxins and get the motor running. Additionally ‘reading books’ keeps the brain fired up....and not on line but in your hands. There is a difference.


393 posted on 12/11/2019 9:53:19 AM PST by caww
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To: janetjanet998
Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr What (conveniently) no one is saying about IG Horowitz’s testimony today is that while he said in the report there no bias as to how the investigation started (low threshold)... based on everything else he said there is an insane amount of bias from that point forward.

This. Horowitz is basically saying that the MAIN reason you can't prove bias for opening Crossfire Hurricane is because the standard is so low and because the people at the FBI have such broad discretion. Basically they can open such an investigation under the flimsiest of circumstances, so how do you prove bias in that case without a smoking gun?

394 posted on 12/11/2019 9:54:43 AM PST by Smogger
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To: romanesq
...”Carter Page was abused (by the CIA) so the Deep State could get to candidate then a US President, Donald Trump.”.....

That's certainly how it's unfolding. Though I understand Page tried to make this clear all along.

395 posted on 12/11/2019 9:57:35 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

“It’s absolutely striking that obvious political bias isn’t clear to Horowitz”

Limited stuff by the role he is tasked. He can only conclude based on documents and testimony. Short of a confession, he doesn’t deduce anything and that is how the IG template works.

But he shouldn’t draw a conclusion based on it because he doesn’t have all the facts nor the investigative ability.

It’s a game. He’s giving something to each side. That’s all he can give to the Rats. They are trying to run it into the end zone but they got tackled by Lindsey at the 20.

The pile-on is coming.


396 posted on 12/11/2019 9:57:47 AM PST by romanesq (8Chan and its child porn, violence and murders are kaput. So is the QAnon grift with it.)
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To: Smogger

“He is saying that the IG can’t prove that they were biased in their motivations based what he has learned from documents and interviews.”

Correct but he also knows that when he gives a short answer not detailing the limitations to the IG, the DNC Media will use it.

He’s playing a political game.


397 posted on 12/11/2019 9:59:09 AM PST by romanesq (8Chan and its child porn, violence and murders are kaput. So is the QAnon grift with it.)
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To: janetjanet998

Interesting to see Brett Baer defending Devin Nunez.


398 posted on 12/11/2019 9:59:24 AM PST by EliRoom8
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To: redshawk

I know THAT’S right. I’m at the point of putting on my strand of pearls so I have something to freakin’ CLUTCH here. I pray the 2nd half has Republicans, ALL of them, fired up and all their brain cells FIRING.


399 posted on 12/11/2019 10:00:14 AM PST by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: gloryblaze

“No bias.”


400 posted on 12/11/2019 10:00:42 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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