Posted on 12/10/2019 9:57:47 AM PST by mplc51
However, not all Democrats are on board with impeachment which can pose a huge problem.
A group of rogue, vulnerable Democrats are spooked and floating censuring President Trump instead of impeaching him, Politico reported on Monday.
But the Dem leadership is claiming they won’t be using any tools such as pressure or coercion to “whip the votes” to make sure the entire Democrat Caucus is on board with impeachment?
I can’t decide whether I want them to impeach and further damage themselves and open up the potential for a really fun trial in the Senate with Humper and Joe Biden on the witless stand, Schiff schiffing his pants, etc...or to not impeach and get hammered by the AOC wing of the party who will probably oppose vulnerable Dems more effectively than the R’s could.
re: “Full House Vote ...” I thought this was about aunt Becky ...
They aren’t happy because they know full well there is zero chance ot Trump being removed from office by the Senate.
Why even bother with an impeachment vote? Good question.
Good points and analysis, Sarah.
They don’t have an ounce of good or They have become truly evil.
Anyone still voting Democrat is a Useful Idiot and scum. They should be ashamed but they are so indoctrinated that that is impossible.
Some actually want to run for re-election in close races and know they are doomed if the GOP has a strong conservative candidate and they vote to impeach on flimsy non-existent crapola.
Reads like the Dem leadership is not entirely "onboard" with impeachment.
They’re actually BEHIND schedule, I think. There was a story here a few months ago where someone said McConnell was advising GOP Senators to be prepared to have the impeachment articles sent from the House before Thanksgiving.
>>the GOP will handily retake the house, and almost certainly extend their lead in the Senate.
Probably, but what will they do with it?
They know this is a dead end for them otherwise they would have included what they have been screaming from the rooftops for MONTHS..quid pro quo, I thought this was all about pressuring Ukraine to give up the goods on Biden, than it became bribery, than it became extortion, now its Abuse of Power LOL..ANYTHING can be abuse of power, heck Im still waiting for Republicans to impeach Obama for using the IRS to go after Conservatives, HELLO wasn’t THAT abuse of power..and obstruction of congress LOL for what, not testifying, Schiff isn’t testifying, no one is forcing him to do it and Trump doesnt have to either..this is the weakest impeachment scam Ive EVER seen
That remains to be seen.. There is no Ryan there to stall and waste time... I suspect Trump will be pressuring whoever is speaker hard this time... vs last time.
The most telling thing about that Barr interview was that he gave it to MSNBC. That’s like Donald Trump giving the keynote address at an Antifa riot.
Was not holder censured?
Sure hope I can quote you on this next November.
THis is their last gasp before the hammer falls. Their only strategy when the reality of their corruption sinks into the psyche of the American people they will claim that it’s payback for impeachment. This is the ONLY reason for doing it.
They lie more naturally than they breathe.
The Democrats will have at least 228 members on board for this nonsense. Perhaps five may defect. They need 218.
These two articles of garbage will be passed any day now and sent to the Senate.
A law that sentences a person, or group of people, to suffer punishment for a crime without being able to exercise their judicial rights in defending themselves.
The U.S. Constitution forbids Bills of Attainder in Article 1, Sections 9 and 10.
The ban extends to both the state and federal governments. The fact that the ban extends to the states shows just how important those who drafted the Constitution believed this issue to be. There are two main reasons why the U.S. Constitution Forbids Bills of Attainder:
The ban reinforces the separation of powers by forbidding the legislative branch of government from engaging in judicial or executive acts.
The ban supports the concept of due process, one of the rights attributed by the Constitution to every American citizen.
But hell, since when has the idiot dems upheld what is in the US Constitution??
BUNCH OF BULLSHIT LIARS!
I think their demeanor was just bad acting because they were so hell-bent on making the occasion appear the most solemn, sacred moment in history - per Ms Pelosi’s command.
Even before this #seinfeldimpeachment Dems were looking at a best case scenario of 15 or so states plus DC..... regardless of who the nominee was... and they weren’t on a BEST CASE path even then...
Post impeachment, they are looking at 10 states as their best case....
The “moderate” democrats that won in 18 in Trump districts were always on borrowed time... Most were not going to survive an election where Trump was on the ballot... (2020) but after running as supposedly “moderates” and then voting to move this nonsense forward, they are almost all assuredly toast, regardless of how they vote on the actual articles themselves..... They ran as independents who would not rubber stamp the radical left wing and Nancy Pelosi and then did exactly that....
Senate probably wasn’t going to see much movement, but the Democrats have so damaged their brand as a whole with this nonsense, I would expect the GOP to pick up a few more seats... Jones was an automatic pickup.. I don’t expect huge movement, but I would expect a few more senate seats to end up GOP.. and hopefully with non wishy washy candidates so the Collins, Romney, etc folks are no longer needed to get to 51.. so we don’t wind up with another crazy show when Trump appoints his next Judge to the Supreme Court.
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