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Schiff’s Easy Access to Citizen’s Phone Records Leads to Abuse and is Anti-American
Townhall.com ^ | December 10, 2019 | David Thomas Roberts

Posted on 12/10/2019 6:47:46 AM PST by Kaslin

Now we learn that Congressman Schiff was able to obtain the personal phone call logs of his political opponents, including Congressman Devin Nunes, Rudy Giuliani and others. What isn’t clear is how they were obtained, with or without a subpoena.

According to Schiff, “the blowback has only come from the far right.” He’s partly correct, as America in general, is likely far more interested in Sunday’s NFL scores than an outright abuse of power by Schiff and a violation of the Fourth Amendment. 

The phone call logs Schiff has now made public, showing who called who, and for how long the conversations lasted is exactly the kind of data collection Eric Snowden warned us about. Given what was at stake, it's unfathomable that AT&T didn’t raise an objection to a House committee subpoena or allow its customers to file an objection. The fact is, AT&T and other American telecom carriers have their own quid pro quo issues that have been going on for years in exchange for lucrative government contracts.

Based on the latest details that were available before publication of this column, this subpoena did not involve any court supervision whatsoever. To put this House subpoena into context, former Obama administration Attorney General Holder has yet to respond to House investigative subpoena’s related to the highly-questionable “Fast and Furious” scandal. Apparently, House investigative subpoenas carry non-existent enforcement mechanisms, otherwise Holder, who was held in contempt of Congress, would have at some point did the perp walk for all the world to see. 

In Monday’s House Judiciary Committee impeachment hearing, much was made over who “matched” the phone numbers from one phone to another. AT&T can easily supply the meta data with who owns each number that initiated the calls and who owns the number who received the call. Dumped into a simple CSV or Excel file, anyone with 10 minutes of Excel experience can scan and match up the names and numbers.  

The fact that the federal government harvests the meta data associated with our personal phone calls isn’t new, despite how many times former National Intelligence Director James Clapper lies about it under oath, or regurgitates it nightly as a political media analyst. It’s also not a secret any longer how cozy the American telecom carriers have become with the intelligence community over the years who are more than willing to sell out their customers’ privacy in exchange for secretive lucrative government contracts.

The average American consumer who signs a retail service contract with AT&T, Verizon, Sprint or other telecom provider has no contractual guarantees to be notified of a “warrantless search” request from a federal government agency on their call records. Even the largest corporations who engage knowledgeable consultants and lawyers are seldom successful at negotiating a notice requirement so that they may object to, or opt out of, this disclosure. 

In the event there actually is a warrant issued for these records, it requires the agency, prosecutor or law enforcement official to go through the same civil liberty precautions and steps as if those same agencies were to pound on your front door with a warrant to search your home. What we can’t be assured of, or if it even occurred, is any modicum of integrity in the FISA court process as proven in the Mueller Report and now the impeachment inquiry.  

It appears AT&T acquiesced to Schiff without a court order, willing supplying a Congressman in charge of the powerful Intelligence Committee to provide call records on political opponents with little or no judicial oversight. After all, surely AT&T’s wouldn’t risk its recent huge $3.3 Billion contract with the NSA by refusing to comply with Schiff’s requests?

After the events of 9/11, the government and our elected representatives were convinced that Americans would be willing to trade their privacy for increased security, leading to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and The Patriot Act. Those who were concerned about the potential abuse of various unconstitutional elements of those two sweeping and intrusive laws have proven to be right.  

A federal government made up of politicians, career bureaucrats and ideologues simply cannot be trusted with the keys to unlock the Constitution simply because it serves their political interests. If there is one thing that the Russian Hoax and the impeachment circus prove it's that the intelligence community cannot be trusted.  

Congressman Schiff should be investigated and the method used to obtain these phone records should be exposed and scrutinized. Federal law should be changed, requiring the telecom carriers to notify their customers of warrantless searches so they may have the opportunity and the right to object.

The telecom companies, who have specifically informed me in past contract dealings on behalf of my clients and prior to Snowden’s disclosures that the government searches are so massive and widespread that they could not “operationalize” a contractual notice requirement to inform a specific customer that an agency had requested their phone, email or text records. They then disclosed to me they began “automatically” turning over meta data records years ago, to which Clapper was specifically queried and purposely lied.  

America should pay attention. Lost in all the white noise over a failed Russian hoax and an unpopular impeachment inquiry, our civil liberties and Fourth Amendment rights are being violated on a daily basis, in exchange for government contracts.

Giving the federal government easy access to spy on American citizens is Anti-American.  Our intelligence community is fundamentally broken and the Constitution is an afterthought.

Maybe we are looking for the obvious quid pro quo in the all the wrong places?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: kag; maga; pencilneckschiff; trump

1 posted on 12/10/2019 6:47:46 AM PST by Kaslin
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Move along, another useless article I won’t be reading. Nothing will happen to Schiff.


2 posted on 12/10/2019 6:51:30 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Kaslin

I never like the use of the phrase “anti-american” or “un-american”.

I prefer phrases that are at least a little more tangible and objective like, “abuse of power”, illegal, etc.


3 posted on 12/10/2019 6:52:39 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Kaslin

Whoever obtained those records and whoever released them are subject to legal action. The victims must take them to court and the courts must throw the book at them for their nefarious ways.


4 posted on 12/10/2019 6:53:36 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Kaslin

It would seem that two can play at this game. Maybe we should take a gander at Schiff’s phone records. Or Nadler’s or Pelosi’s or Creepy Joe’s. Or even the Purple Lipped Kenyan’s The possibilities boggle the mind. This could be fun!


5 posted on 12/10/2019 7:01:26 AM PST by 762X51
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To: Kaslin
Congressman Schiff should be investigated and the method used to obtain these phone records should be exposed and scrutinized. Federal law should be changed, requiring the telecom carriers to notify their customers of warrantless searches so they may have the opportunity and the right to object.

Investigated by whom?

Changed by whom?

Any attempt to fix the legal loopholes will be cast as an attempt at a cover-up of more "impeachable" behaviors since Schiff decided to make those call records part of the justification for articles of impeachment, even though they don't even support the specious claims made. A new house majority needs to be in place, with a Senate and President that are all supportive of investigating and changing the law. That should be a unifying message for all republican candidates in the next election.

6 posted on 12/10/2019 7:06:12 AM PST by jz638
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To: Kaslin

Epstein Island
The Coup
Social Media Censorship.

ALL tbe same group.


7 posted on 12/10/2019 7:06:16 AM PST by gaijin
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To: 762X51

It would seem that two can play at this game. Maybe we should take a gander at Schiff’s phone records. Or Nadler’s or Pelosi’s or Creepy Joe’s. Or even the Purple Lipped Kenyan’s The possibilities boggle the mind. This could be fun!
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Not going to happen...…. and nobody will go after Schiff either.


8 posted on 12/10/2019 7:30:25 AM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

There is no punishment too harsh for what Schiff did. I was was holding out hope that the person who stepped in front of the ghettro train in DC last night was the beady-eyed congressman. But I’d rather have him suffer for a few years in a cell before succumbing to prison justice.


9 posted on 12/10/2019 8:12:24 AM PST by Hatteras
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Not going to happen...…. and nobody will go after Schiff either.
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There must be trolls spreading pessimism on FR, always urging us to sit back and do nothing whenever something like this happens. Hoping their pessimism will become self-fulfilling.


10 posted on 12/10/2019 9:17:53 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: Kaslin

They were all just talking about grand kids and upcoming weddings.


11 posted on 12/10/2019 9:35:12 AM PST by pas
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To: Kaslin
According to Schiff, “the blowback has only come from the far right.” He’s partly correct, as America in general, is likely far more interested in Sunday’s NFL scores than an outright abuse of power by Schiff and a violation of the Fourth Amendment. Sadly this is true.The fact that any American can get excited about any sport that doesn't involve firearms says a lot about the health of the Republic than just about anything I can think of.
12 posted on 12/10/2019 11:30:22 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: Socon-Econ

There must be trolls spreading pessimism on FR, always urging us to sit back and do nothing whenever something like this happens. Hoping their pessimism will become self-fulfilling.
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Ok, what are you doing? Who said to sit back?

Because I differ with you a troll influenced me? How ridiculous. We were told to be patient with Sessions.....be patient with the IG report......bombshell coming...….and now be patient with Barr.


13 posted on 12/10/2019 1:35:57 PM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

Well, there is Republican opposition: Adam Schiff’s 2020 Republican challenger vows to propel ‘the viper into retirement’

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-early-adam-schiffs-2020-republican-challenger

“He’s an unabashedly proud, MAGA hat-toting attorney in the left-leaning throngs of Los Angeles. And he has high hopes of removing Rep. Adam Schiff from his seat in California’s 28th congressional district in 2020.

“Meet Eric Early, Schiff’s leading Republican challenger, who minces no words when it comes to his desire to send the longstanding Democratic ‘viper into retirement and help give Congress back to the people.’ ”

Good luck, Mr. Early! I hope you kick his LIEberal LYING ass all the way back to wherever he came FRom!


14 posted on 12/10/2019 4:13:16 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS!)
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