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Just how bad was the FBI’s Russia FISA? 51 violations and 9 false statements
John Solomon Reports ^ | December 9, 2019 | John Solomon

Posted on 12/10/2019 1:25:54 AM PST by Yo-Yo

To understand just how shoddy the FBI’s work was in securing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant targeting the Trump campaign, you only need to read an obscure attachment to Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report.

Appendix 1 identifies the total violations by the FBI of the so-called Woods Procedures, the process by which the bureau verifies information and assures the FISA court its evidence is true.

The Appendix identifies a total of 51 Woods procedure violations from the FISA application the FBI submitted to the court authorizing surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page starting in October 2016.

A whopping nine of those violations fell into the category called: “Supporting document shows that the factual assertion is inaccurate.”

For those who don’t speak IG parlance, it means the FBI made nine false assertions to the FISA court. In short, what the bureau said was contradicted by the evidence in its official file.

To put that in perspective, former Trump aides Mike Flynn and George Papadopoulos were convicted of making single false statements to the bureau. One went to jail already, and the other awaits sentencing.

The FBI made nine false statements to the court.

And the appendix shows the FBI made another nine factual assertions that did not match the supporting evidence in the file. In another words, the bureau was misleading on nine other occasions.

The vast majority of remaining Woods violations — 33 in total — involved failing to provide any evidence in the Woods procedure backing up assertion in the FISA warrant application.

That’s serious too since the sole purpose of the Wood procedures is to ensure all evidence cited in a FISA application is documented as accurate and reliable so it can be trusted by the courts.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; fisa; solomon
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To: griswold3
The FBI has no credibility

If I am seated on a jury and the FBI came anywhere near the evidence, I'm voting to acquit. So should you.


41 posted on 12/10/2019 5:53:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The FBI has no credibility

If I am seated on a jury and the FBI came anywhere near the evidence, I’m voting to acquit. So should you.


In addition never speak to the FBI without your attorney present and recording the conversation.


42 posted on 12/10/2019 6:04:41 AM PST by Geoffrey
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To: Yo-Yo
want to see INDICTMENTS!

Do you understand that the DOJ IG does not have the power to issue indictments?

43 posted on 12/10/2019 6:14:08 AM PST by centurion316
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To: databoss
the whitewash job on the report.

The press are certainly working hard to whitewash the report, but anyone who believes them are fools. John Solomon points out very clearly that it is not a whitewash and the report will result in indictments. In addition, the resulting civil suits will succeed for the victims of these crimes.

44 posted on 12/10/2019 6:19:05 AM PST by centurion316
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To: SkyPilot
That's why Horowitz and the Dept of Injustice will not allow the FBI to be held criminally liable.

Horowitz has done what he had the mandate to do. He did not have the power and authority to do more. The statements of Mr. Barr and Mr. Dunham indicate that the DOJ will do what they have power to do, deliver indictments.

45 posted on 12/10/2019 6:23:31 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Yo-Yo
Just how bad was the FBI’s Russia FISA? 51 violations and 9 false statements


When does a false statement rise to the level of a "lack of candor"?

So, other than the 51 violations and the 9 false statements, The FISA warrant was just fine?

Reminds me of Monty Python's "Merely a Flesh Wound".

46 posted on 12/10/2019 6:24:33 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I want the names of everyone involved in the Woods application process re the Fisa court applications made public and then put under oath before the Sen Judiciary and Intelligence committees to tell us why they were incompetent, corrupt, or who ordered them to be that way.


This cannot be allowed. Corruption at the highest intelligence level and FBI, whitewash IG report, corrupt judge and FISA court.

What did Hillary know? Surely she knew the $10 million for Steele was going somewhere for something.

What did Obama know about the domestic counter intelligence operation against his rival?

When will the swat teams converge upon the Clinton campaign officials in the wee hours of the morning?

When will CNN produce a screen of thumbnails of the charged Clinton campaign officials?

47 posted on 12/10/2019 7:13:01 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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To: centurion316

His “mandate” did not restrict him from calling a spade a spade. The truth is, he whitewashed the guilt of his fellow Dept of Injustice bureaucrats, and the Federal Bureau of Injustice Gestapo coup plotters. All Horowitz had to do was write words on a report that told the truth, and he couldn’t even do that.


48 posted on 12/10/2019 7:17:51 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Moonman62

Are they claiming right-wingers are paranoid conspiracy types ,yet?


49 posted on 12/10/2019 7:24:45 AM PST by Leep (It's.. (W)all or nothing..!)
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To: SkyPilot

It’s a great report, providing the essential framework for the criminal indictments that will follow from Durham. This is a win for us and instead of spending your energy criticizing it, criticize the travesty that is going on in the House of Representatives.


50 posted on 12/10/2019 7:35:36 AM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316
It’s not a “great report.” Horowitz’s cowardice was so immense that both Durham and Barr felt compelled to issue almost unheard of public statements that rebuked his main findings. And, they did so within minutes of his report finally being released. Horowitz spent 630+ days on this; all to tell us the Deep State made some “errors.” Whoopsie!

There is a wise saying: “The last is prologue.” I don’t expect Durham and Barr to hold Obama and Hillary accountable. Nor will the Congressional Criminal Class lay for their treason and corruption.

51 posted on 12/10/2019 7:49:36 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

lay = pay


52 posted on 12/10/2019 7:50:26 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
I don’t expect Durham and Barr to hold Obama and Hillary accountable. Nor will the Congressional Criminal Class lay for their treason and corruption.

Of course you don't. You suffer from the malaise that infects this forum, with the sufferers spending all their time nit picking our side while ignoring our real enemy, the Communist Democrat Party. I choose to support Trump and encourage all of those who are helping him.

53 posted on 12/10/2019 8:01:28 AM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316
Do you understand that the DOJ IG does not have the power to issue indictments?

Yes, that is what Durham is for.

And I repeat, I want to see INDICTMENTS! And not just a single FBI lawyer for changing a single email. I want to see the entire chain of command that KNOWINGLY falsified the FISA renewals.

I'll grant them the original FISA warrant, but by the first renewal they knew they had nothing yet they withheld and falsified information to gain three more renewals of that FISA warrant.

54 posted on 12/10/2019 8:23:43 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: centurion316
It’s not “malaise” or an “infection.” It’s an opinion. I base it not only on my own observations, but what I read and hear. Most people here on FR have been surprised over the last few years to realize that the corruption in D.C. is even worse than they had imagined. The truth is, it’s even worse than that.

Further, you are 100% wrong that I don’t criticize Democrats. Lol. Your accusation borders on insanity.

I don’t know how this all ends. But my belief is that the criminal class and coup plotters will mostly skate. They may give us a couple of scalps: Strozk, maybe even Comey or Brennan. But never Obama. Never Hillary. Never high ranking members of Congress.

55 posted on 12/10/2019 8:55:30 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Yo-Yo

The FBI are not the big fish in this. The focus on them is a distraction. The leaders of the coup are Hillary who ordered up and paid for the fake dossier and Obama who used it to wire tap a presidential candidate and then president-elect Another reason why those two should be in prison.


56 posted on 12/10/2019 9:00:12 AM PST by olesigh
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To: NTHockey
If I ever serve on a jury where the FBI says one thing, I vote the other way.

That might be a little excessive. I would basically treat anything they say as not worth more than hearsay. i.e., nothing at all.

57 posted on 12/10/2019 9:01:46 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: IamConservative
Of these 51 violations, how many favored Trump or the campaign? Surely, if the FBI were unbiased and not politically motivated, the benefits of their incompetence to the parties would be distributed randomly, right?

Exactly. I saw a post somewhere yesterday where someone mentioned that if you flipped a coin 51 times and it came up heads every time, that you might want to take a look at the coin.

58 posted on 12/10/2019 9:10:25 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: SkyPilot

OK, no Christmas Card from me for you. Merry Christmas anyway.


59 posted on 12/10/2019 9:19:44 AM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316
Of course you don't. You suffer from the malaise that infects this forum, with the sufferers spending all their time nit picking our side while ignoring our real enemy, the Communist Democrat Party. I choose to support Trump and encourage all of those who are helping him.

Sorry Centurian, it's not just malaise. It's just reality and the logical acceptance of same. Anyone who thinks that the deep state, or any of its minions other than perhaps some of the lowest level pawns will actually pay for their malfeasance is delusional.

delusional:

  1. having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions:
    Senators who think they will get agreement on a comprehensive tax bill are delusional.

  2. Psychiatry. maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts, usually as a result of mental illness:
    He was so delusional and paranoid that he thought everybody was conspiring against him.

From dictionary.com, emphasis added.

Those of us who have been paying attention have noticed that we've seen this movie before, and we know how it ends.

60 posted on 12/10/2019 9:22:54 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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