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A New Hyposthesis: How did they build the Peruvian stone walls
Ancient Architects ^ | Brien Forrester

Posted on 12/09/2019 5:07:55 PM PST by wildbill

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To: wildbill

o bags of cement? Peruv it!


21 posted on 12/09/2019 7:10:48 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: wildbill

https://megalithicmarvels.com/2017/08/30/10-photos-that-prove-megalithic-engineers-predated-the-inca-builders/

I suspect a crystallographic analysis of the megalithic stone would reveal more.

Considered to be granite and andesite, other questions emerge.

These Megalithic (mega-”large”, “lith”-stone) are by their names large stones without mortar or cement. Similar to monoliths or dolmens, are found through the world associated with ancient construction say more than 9000yrs ago. Pre-Noah, before the flood.

When looking at some from Gobekli Tepe, one might wonder if these were so sophisticated in their formation, and so intricate in their fitting, then why the crude sketchings of animal figures on them or faces.


22 posted on 12/09/2019 7:39:21 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr

Above is from Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, example of a megalith.

If an advanced stone-cutting, then why the coarse artwork in precision fit stone?

It's like asking, why would an advanced civilization, centuries to millennia more sophisticated than ourselves, journey here in UFOs, only to mutilate cattle and probe humans?

23 posted on 12/09/2019 7:43:49 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: wildbill
You can go to Peru and visit sites where the Incas were still building walls when the Spaniards came. You can see blocks sitting around next to unfinished buildings when the Incas began to die from smallpox. The tools they used are also known. This story is humbug, like the alien stuff.
24 posted on 12/09/2019 8:06:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ns3xOWMBs


25 posted on 12/09/2019 8:41:28 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Buttons12

#7. Portland Cement? How did they get it down to Peru?

Just asking. Meanwhile we will just keep chipping away at the rocks theories.


26 posted on 12/10/2019 12:23:04 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures)
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To: Buttons12; wildbill; SunkenCiv
"By the way, I also watched a vid about a place called Caral, in Peru, that has very ancient stone structures that may date back to around 3000BC. I’d never heard of it before."

Caral is pretty cool, It has more going on than they show in the videos. Many temples, nine that I can count, several still covered over and not excavated yet. Please keep posting wildbill, every theory is worth considering. The naysayers are welcome to move on and not click on it if they don't agree. No one forced them to come "waste their time". :)


27 posted on 12/10/2019 4:23:42 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Born to Conserve; 762X51; wildbill

“762X51: “What a stupid theory.”

Yes.

The only thing worse than stupid theories are the total ignoramuses who post them. Thank you, wildbill, for wasting everyone’s time.”

You were absolutely welcome to drive right on by and not click on it, let alone make the effort to add your two cents. Your own decision to waste your own time is now the fault of another? EVERY theory is worth exploring, some times they branch off into other more viable theories that do make sense.


28 posted on 12/10/2019 4:35:30 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Buttons12

There is mention on one of the videos on pyramid construction today that a study was done on 2 of the structures samples looking at the magnetic alignments of metals in the rocks - quarried stone would produce a random alignment due to random motions while moving and placing; a cast stone would have the same alignment as the magnetic pole in situ. All the samples had the same northerly ligament, not the random alignment expected from quarried stone.

Stone cannot be carbon dated, bio-thermoluminescence dating can tell when two stones were laid down, but not the date of the stone carving/shaping itself.

How many cores would it take to find one that had such material in it?; how much time do you want to spend?; how much money do you want to spend on testing hundreds or thousands of samples?

There are stone structures in SA that date back over 100,000 years ... there is a pyramid in SA larger and older that the Great Pyramid ...


29 posted on 12/10/2019 6:16:58 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Openurmind
"By the way, I also watched a vid about a place called Caral, in Peru, that has very ancient stone structures that may date back to around 3000BC. I’d never heard of it before."

Yup.

Ruth Shady is working that site. At one point, I read that the pyramids at Caral were the oldest in the world. I expect that to change if it hasn't already.

3,800-Year-Old Wall Relief Created By Ancient Caral People Unearthed In Peru


30 posted on 12/10/2019 8:36:12 AM PST by blam
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To: Openurmind; Buttons12; wildbill; Red Badger; decimon; BenLurkin; vannrox; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Caral sidebars, mostly posted by blam:

https://www.freerepublic.com/tag/caral/index


31 posted on 12/10/2019 9:03:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: blam; Buttons12

Caral is very exciting, I can’t wait to see what they find. And the main site I posted from google earth is not all of it. Off to the west there is another valley with six more temples and many more outbuildings still yet to be excavated.

Upriver to the east, and downriver all the way to the sea west there are numerous clusters of housing communities also still not yet excavated . Still unexplored is what looks like several more temple complexes next to the sea at Caleta Vidal. There are generations of work to be done there in that area.

Something I found interesting is that whole area and up to the mountains around Caral looks like it was hit by a tsunami at one point and probably what covered it all with silt. There appears to be evidence of this all along that area for hundreds of miles along the coast.

Caral and area has the most intriguing possibilities of all south American sites so far. :)


32 posted on 12/10/2019 9:11:38 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: PIF

“There are stone structures in SA that date back over 100,000 years ... there is a pyramid in SA larger and older that the Great Pyramid ...”

Yep, absolutely. Contrary to the popular narrative...


33 posted on 12/10/2019 9:14:17 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

The history of the Human Race is not what we have been told in school or in the media. Our history is not linear nor did a lot of the more important parts take place in Europe, Asia of Africa.

Everyone forgets the Americas; no one knows what was there prior to the comet strike of 10800 BC. on North America or prior to the appearance of the rain forests in South America. All of that is slowly changing so that, in a generation or so, the real history may be known.


34 posted on 12/10/2019 9:49:21 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

EXCELLENT! Thanks blam! Thanks Civ!


35 posted on 12/10/2019 9:58:46 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: PIF

“The history of the Human Race is not what we have been told in school or in the media. Our history is not linear nor did a lot of the more important parts take place in Europe, Asia of Africa.

Everyone forgets the Americas; no one knows what was there prior to the comet strike of 10800 BC. on North America or prior to the appearance of the rain forests in South America. All of that is slowly changing so that, in a generation or so, the real history may be known.”

Oh, I absolutely agree. I have been all over that reality for about 10 years now. What amazes me is how extremely the true ancient populations of SA has been underestimated. Even in wilderness areas of the Andes where there is nothing there are tens of thousands of hectares with still very faint remains of ancient terracing. Just about every square hectare of south America has been terraced for agriculture or husbandry. Far far more than would be needed for even today’s population of SA.


36 posted on 12/10/2019 10:26:49 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Buttons12
And can’t someone simply core into one of them, find some trace of bags or wood frames, and carbon date it?

I wonder if they couldn't take out one "perfectly fitted" stone and analyze the sides to see if heat (i.e. cutting laser) was applied, as some of the believers have proposed.

Another interesting question pertained to those bronze "T-Bones" that held the stones together. One said the bronze had to be molten all the time and carried from stone to stone, and wondered what kind of heat source could be that portable and constant.

37 posted on 12/10/2019 1:56:39 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Openurmind
Something I found interesting is that whole area and up to the mountains around Caral looks like it was hit by a tsunami at one point and probably what covered it all with silt. There appears to be evidence of this all along that area for hundreds of miles along the coast.

I always wondered if that "tsunami" was the result of the earth tilting for some cosmic reason, ending the Ice Age, creating the legends of the Flood, and maybe even creating the salt water Lake Titicaca and the upheavaled structures at Tiahuanaco

38 posted on 12/10/2019 2:09:22 PM PST by Oatka
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Do you have Google earth? Should take a look at that area. It really looks like streaks where a massive amount of water washed in and then back out. So it is very possible. :)


39 posted on 12/10/2019 2:44:42 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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