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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 8 December 2019
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 8 December 2019 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/08/2019 4:40:09 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: rodguy911
No one was happy with the status quo of CIA/Russia/Turkey/Iran/Hezzbolla fomenting war all the time forever/unending. / And they have MBS who is a brilliant young Saudi leader educated in the US and having many of the "freedom of the individual values" we have here in the US.

Historically the Saudis were never much of a fighting force. Today they are still the same pissant bunch, easily overrun.

The Big powers have always been what is now Iraq/Turkey and of course the Persians. And I believe that there is no love lost between any of these. They hate each other as much as they hate any Christian.

As for MBS - Yes he was educated in the U.S., So was Yamamoto. MBS is Saudi and his personal interests for Saudi sound positive, just way too early to tell. But until and unless he is able to eliminate the hard core religious zealots in Saudi he will be targeted for execution

201 posted on 12/08/2019 12:11:46 PM PST by DanZ
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To: patriotspride

Yeah without Dirty Harry Ray will have to do....


202 posted on 12/08/2019 12:12:08 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: shalom aleichem

I’m sure Hannity knows far more that he can say. But just the same when he ignores source material like George Webb he’s shooting himself in the foot.Sooner or later he’s gonna be worth so much money he will have to decide to go rogue or stay bought.


203 posted on 12/08/2019 12:15:05 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911
We definitely need a Republican congress....

That is a very unconvincing argument - what, more McCains? What about some of the other Senators like the ones from Maine and Alaska. Do you thing these two wenam are the type we should have leading this Country? - I do not.

On another note, I did not get a chance to see your former congressman on TV today - what did you think, if you saw him?

204 posted on 12/08/2019 12:15:12 PM PST by DanZ
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To: rodguy911; ROCKLOBSTER

In other words, you want a 6 team playoff (Gators are No. 6).

GO BUCKEYES!


205 posted on 12/08/2019 12:16:43 PM PST by shalom aleichem (Barr and Durham! Get movin'. Time's awastin')
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To: Alas Babylon!

Exactly and for better or worse she will be gone in another cycle or two.I can’t see her up there at 80. It won’t make sense for her.


206 posted on 12/08/2019 12:16:45 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911
Wouldn’t surprise me at all.He often disrupts things here not good.

Forcing people to think may not be good in your opinion, but better than confirmation bias

207 posted on 12/08/2019 12:17:45 PM PST by DanZ
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To: Jane Long

Sure Jane,great post.The Catholic church has been a big player in Central, South America and the islands.If they go far left its bad news for lots of people worldwide.


208 posted on 12/08/2019 12:20:08 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911

Agree re Sean. Hard choice to walk away from the trough, but Bongino is doing it. Dan has a tougher background, been fired in the caldron.


209 posted on 12/08/2019 12:20:29 PM PST by shalom aleichem (Barr and Durham! Get movin'. Time's awastin')
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To: DanZ
That is a very unconvincing argument - what, more McCains? What about some of the other Senators like the ones from Maine and Alaska. Do you thing these two wenam are the type we should have leading this Country? - I do not.

I agree. However the "Two" Party system (more a two wing UniParty) is what we have. You have to play the cards you're dealt.

210 posted on 12/08/2019 12:22:48 PM PST by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Alas Babylon!
Two years for you? It's YOU who are late!

I heard the Rush complain about the Commie and how he takes $$$ from the U.S. as the U.S. Catholics are the main source of the Vatican's money. Now that was some time back - more than two years.

Over the past two years I have simply voiced additional disgust with him, the Jesuits and the parents of the abused children, These parents should have pressed CRIMINAL charges - priest or no priest - Same applies to the stories you hears about Imams .

Some goober is checking my posts right now, maybe he will summarize

211 posted on 12/08/2019 12:26:19 PM PST by DanZ
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To: shalom aleichem

No just kidding the gators are out for this year,but there is always next year.


212 posted on 12/08/2019 12:31:03 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: shalom aleichem

Bongingo is impressive and has just enough charisma to make it.


213 posted on 12/08/2019 12:32:10 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: Fishtalk
The Sunday political talk shows 12/8/19

Thanks, Fishtalk, my wife re-arranged our cable, I now have to wait for your post to watch Maria

214 posted on 12/08/2019 12:35:03 PM PST by DanZ
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To: shalom aleichem
Poor Joe he needs ozero sooo bad and just ain't gonna get him. He forgot he's white and zero don't like white guys at all: and finally:
215 posted on 12/08/2019 12:38:25 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: Roccus
I agree. However the "Two" Party system (more a two wing UniParty) is what we have. You have to play the cards you're dealt.

Very true. Primaries are the only option for some of us. In Texas the Primaries are in March. John Cornyn, THE NO. TWO in the Senate is up for Re-election. Cornyn is a RINO and Mitch's right hand man

I am looking forward to voting for his primary opponent

216 posted on 12/08/2019 12:39:43 PM PST by DanZ
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To: All

George webb live now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTTeeptDLso


217 posted on 12/08/2019 12:43:55 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: kabar
"The majority of the Senate doesn't want to hold a trial. There are many of them on both sides of the aisle that could have damaging information against them."

I just don't trust Graham or many of the others in the so silent Senate during this long persecution. One way to protect themselves is to shutdown the trial quickly and have a hurry up vote to convict. Then, they think they can go back to business as usual.

218 posted on 12/08/2019 12:48:57 PM PST by Truth29
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To: patriotspride; kabar
Graham does not want the full story of this corruption exposed.

Listening to Linda Gramnasty on Maria's show - Looks to me like The Turle has sent Linda out to establish the comming rules of the road.

We in the Senate will acquit you as long as you do not mess with our ability to take money ALA the Clinton's the Biden's etc.

Finding people guilty and sending them to jail would possibly make Linda a target of investigation should the Dems take charge

219 posted on 12/08/2019 12:50:30 PM PST by DanZ
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As of over a year ago over 40-,000 sealed indictments were in play by John Huber.IF he is averaging 5,000 a month how many are there now?
Here is a clip:
https://www.exopolitics.org/qanon-links-us-attorney-with-thousands-of-sealed-indictments-decimating-the-deep-state/

QAnon links US Attorney with thousands of sealed indictments decimating the Deep State
WRITTEN BY DR MICHAEL SALLA ON JULY 2, 2018. POSTED IN FEATURED, US POLITICS

In a July 1 post, QAnon referred to the latest count of over 40,000 sealed indictments filed in U.S. Federal District Criminal Courts since October 30, 2017, and linked these to prosecutions being led by the U.S. Attorney for Utah, John Huber. Attorney General Jeff Sessions appointed Huber back on November 13, 2017 to work with the Department of Justice’s Inspector General, Michael Horowitz, in investigating a wide range of criminal and civil law violations by government employees brought up by Republican lawmakers.

If QAnon’s claim is shown to be accurate, then such a large number of secret indictments will have the effect of removing corrupt Federal officials, which will decimate the Deep State and its power over the US political and financial system.

.............................

In understanding the link between the alleged 40,000 sealed indictments and the appointment of Huber to work with the Office of Inspector General, it’s worth emphasizing the November 13 starting date for Huber and the rapid rise of sealed indictments since October 31, 2017.

When examining the list of states where the sealed indictments have been filed, its clear that these are distributed all over the U.S., thereby suggestion that Huber’s team comprises prosecutors drawn from many, if not all 50 states.

If the linkage posted by QAnon is accurate, then it can be assumed that many, if not the majority, of the sealed indictments are occurring as a result of the collaboration between Huber and the Office of Inspector General all over all the country, wherever crimes were committed. Essentially, Horowitz’s staff does the bulk of the investigation, while the prosecution and convening of a grand jury is left to Huber’s team.

As Professor Turley pointed out back in March, “a grand jury can be empaneled anywhere” by Huber. In another July 1 post, QAnon says that this is exactly what has happened by asking the following rhetorical question:

If QAnon is correct, then the sealed indictments initiated by Huber’s team of prosecutors with the support of the Office of Inspector General, have been the catalyst for many powerful corporate figures, members of Congress, and Department of Justice officials mysteriously resigning.

QAnon has referred to lists of corporate, congressional and FBI figures who have resigned or been sacked. QAnon is telling us that these resignations/sackings are due to the sealed indictments that have been issued against (former) Department of Justice officials by Huber.

Indeed, when one reviews the lists, this is powerful circumstantial evidence that the sealed indictments have been issued and are forcing these resignations, and thereby undermining the power of the Deep State who used these officials.

The following is a list of retiring Congressional representatives who, while not Department of Justice officials and thereby outside the investigatory purview of the Office of the Inspector General, presumably decided to retire in anticipation of the scandal about to emerge with the unsealing of the indictments where they have been implicated in some way:

The following is a list of FBI officials, forced to resign or who had been sacked due to them being investigated by the Office of Inspector General, and the sealed indictments issued by grand juries empaneled by Huber:

All this behooves us to ask whether what QAnon is telling us is possible. To find an answer we can begin with the website of the “Offices of the United States Attorneys”, which explains the duty of grand juries only investigating criminal offenses in districts where they occurred:

The special grand jury has a duty under 18 U.S.C. § 3332(a) “to inquire into offenses against the criminal laws of the United States alleged to have been committed within that district.”

This means that Huber could begin the prosecution process with the help of the 470 investigations from the Office of Inspector General who would gather the facts and evidence. Huber would then use senior prosecutors from his team to empanel grand juries in the districts where the offenses occurred.

Significantly, all Huber and his team would have to do to secure a sealed indictment is present key facts along with supporting evidence that a crime had been committed in a particular jurisdiction, as the following summary of Sealed Indictment Law clarifies:

In order to issue an indictment, the grand jury doesn’t make a determination of guilt, but only the probability that a crime was committed, that the accused person did it and that he/she should be tried. District Attorneys do not present a full case to the grand jury, but often only introduce key facts sufficient to show the probability that the accused committed a crime.

The next question that arises is how many sealed indictments have been issued by Huber and his team? QAnon referred to the June 30 estimate of over 40,000 sealed indictments since October 31, 2017. Could Huber’s team of senior prosecutors and the 470 staff in the Office of Inspector General be responsible for so many sealed indictments over the last eight months?

For an answer, it’s important to point out that claims of up to 40,000 sealed judicial cases, which is well above the average of past years, are basically correct. This is acknowledged even by critics seeking to debunk QAnon’s information, as exemplified by Mike Rothschild writing for the Daily Dot back on April 12, 2018.

While Rothschild’s article critiques the claim of 25,000 sealed indictments asserted by QAnon supporters back in April 2018, it is helpful since it demonstrates that even critics acknowledge that PACER records do substantiate such large numbers of “sealed cases”:

So then what about the massive number of sealed case found files in PACER? The #QAnon researchers aren’t making them up – a random sampling of PACER records from the district courts of Washington, D.C. and the Eastern District of Virginia shows the number to be more or less accurate.

In distinguishing between “sealed cases” and “sealed indictments”, Rothschild points out that the former may involve mundane legal secrecy requirements involving search warrants, phone tapping, witness protection, prosecuting juvenile cases, etc., ordered by a judge. In contrast, a sealed indictment involves a grand jury that has been empaneled, heard some of the facts and evidence brought before it, and issued an indictment that is covered by strict secrecy requirements in order for arrests to be made without the target being warned in advance.

In Rothschild’s critique, he refers to the 1077 sealed cases that occurred in 2006, a typical year for sealed cases, that was analyzed in an October 23, 2009 report by the Federal Judicial Center. He points out that QAnon researchers conflated “sealed cases” with “sealed indictments”:

So the conspiracy theorists number of sealed felony indictments in a “normal” year would seem to be right. Except reading on in the report makes it clear that many of those sealed criminal cases were NOT indictments.

In fact, the report only lists 284 out of 1,077 cases as “sealed indictments” that the writers were able to obtain no information on….

Essentially, the number #QAnon is using is factually correct, but leaves out vital context that explains that relatively few of the 1,077 are actual criminal indictments. Most are routine court matters.

So if only roughly 26% of “sealed cases” covered by PACER records in 2006 involved “sealed indictments”, then we have a means of estimating how many sealed cases from 2017/2018 PACER records involve sealed indictments.

At the very least, applying the 26% figure to the over 40,000 Pacer records showing current “sealed cases”, then we can estimate that there are at the very least 10,000 secret indictments currently in play. The actual figure may be much higher due to 2017/2018 having an inordinately large number of sealed cases due to some extraordinary judicial process at play.

Sessions’ March 29 letter to Congress is evidence that the unusual judicial process, which has so inflated the number of sealed cases for 2017/2018, involves indictments initiated by Huber and his prosecutorial team, supported by 470 investigators from the Office of Inspector General.

In conclusion, a critical examination of PACER records, Attorney General Sessions’ March 29 letter to Congress, together with the lists of retiring/sacked member of Congress, corporate executives, and FBI officials, provides compelling support for QAnon’s claim that tens of thousands of secret indictments have been issued against corrupt officials controlled by the Deep State.

As these corrupt officials are removed from their influential positions, the Deep State’s power is decimated, thereby opening the door for the truth to be disclosed on a great number of issues previously suppressed by the Deep State.

© Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Copyright Notice

Further Reading
Did President Trump Endorse Q Info on Secret Indictments of Pedophile Network?


220 posted on 12/08/2019 1:04:38 PM PST by rodguy911
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