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To: karpov

There’s no fixing public schools. The teachers union will make sure of that.


2 posted on 12/06/2019 4:56:03 PM PST by Track9
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To: Track9

There’s no fixing public schools. The teachers union will make sure of that.


I understand your sentiment, but the fact is even public schools where the nearest teachers’ union is 100 miles away are having a hard time not failing. The law requires that every human between the age of 5 and 18 who lives in the district has a place in the school.

If the child is wild and out of control because his parents (or more likely parent) has no self-control either, he still gets a seat in the classroom next to your kid. If he throws books at the teacher (or your kid) he still gets to stay. And if he’s really out of control he gets an IEP (Individual Education Program) that bumps his right to be there far above normal kids.

Unions make all of these things worse, of course, but the underlying problem is the large numbers of feral children attending. Of course it is worse in some places than others, but it’s pretty much everywhere. Only schools that have a free hand at expelling disruptive kids might be immune, but they aren’t public schools.

I’ve worked at the same semi-rural school for over 30 years (last several as a sub) and the decline of behavior of kids, starting with kindergarten is amazing. The district spends a lot more money than when I started, has more than doubled staff size—student population is a bit smaller—and the kids are learning less.


12 posted on 12/06/2019 5:15:10 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: Track9
There’s no fixing public schools. The teachers union will make sure of that.

Senator Warren is jumping into the middle of a fight between the teachers union and the other public school teachers and administrators that run charter schools. Charter schools are public schools, and they are frequently run by people who previously worked in traditional public schools.

Many of the charter school teachers left unionized positions in regular public schools to work in charter schools to avoid the one size fits all approach of regular public school systems, and the stifling work environments they have.

What the union fears is that the success of charter schools will show that their schools are not doing a good job, and the political pressure that will result from that.

20 posted on 12/06/2019 5:39:53 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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“If you think your public school is not working, then go help your public school,” she told the National Education Association (NEA) as she touted her stance against charters. “Go help get more resources for [your public school]. Volunteer at your public school <<—

Ill Do more then that Liz....Ill Volunteer to teach Civics and bring 6 “aids” with me..... you can lay-off 3 teachers....Save the schools some money too!!........./s

23 posted on 12/06/2019 6:11:22 PM PST by M-cubed
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