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Trump Makes Stand at NATO Summit
Rush ^ | December 3, 2019 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 12/03/2019 11:40:15 AM PST by Kaslin

RUSH: The media today was going wild over Trump’s comments from the NATO summit in London where he called Macron’s comments about NATO being brain-dead insulting. And of course Trump is the guy who has said that NATO is useless, that’s it’s worthless without in the United States. It is Trump who has said that none of these other member nations are paying anywhere near their fair share of the operating expenses and the upkeep.

Now, for those of you who don’t know, there aren’t actually dues. NATO’s not some club where they’ve got a general secretary and an IT director and then somebody in billing and assessment. They don’t send out bills to member nations. The way a member nation pays its responsibilities in NATO is by way of funding its own defense. And that’s what a number of NATO members haven’t been doing. And we never call them on it. And you know why we never call them on it?

It’s the same reason this crazy world order that was set up after World War II got set up. Basically, here’s the premise of the current existing world order. It’s unfair that the United States is so big; it’s unfair the United States is so rich; it’s unfair the United States is so prosperous; it’s unfair the United States is so influential and dominate.

So the United States will pay more than its fair share. The United States will allow member nations of the United Nations to pick its pocket now and then. Americans set this up, by the way. Americans set this up as a way of assuaging their guilt, as a way of, they would say, keeping the peace. But it’s classic. It’s almost people who were embarrassed at the superpower status, both economically, militarily, any number of ways.

And I’m not exaggerating this. I’m not making this up. This is classic the way this current world order exists. And what’s always been ironic about it to me, here we have the United States of America who’s been around hundreds of years less than European countries. And, by the way, this is not a rub on European countries, don’t misunderstand me when I say this. There are many, many reasons for this. But in less than 250 years a nation that never existed was founded and became the dominant economic power, moral power, military power the world had ever seen.

Meanwhile, nations around the world, including in Europe, been around thousands of years, can’t even hold a candle to us. Now, as I say, there are reasons for it. So then we have these world organizations, we got European Union, we got the NATO, then we’ve got the G7, the G20, the G8, whatever it is. And in every one of these organizations, the United States is pointed to, “It’s unfair you’re so big. It’s unfair you’re so powerful.” We’ve always had Americans agree. “You know, it really is.”

And so to balance this out we’ve allowed our pockets to be picked. We have allowed ourselves to be guilted into paying for everything, disaster relief around the world, because we can. But rather than the United States becoming a model for other nations and economies to follow in order to achieve their own degree of such power and success, they have been allowed to go ahead and run themselves as quasi-socialist democracies depending on the United States for trade, for defense, for any number of things.

And there has been very little real appreciation for it. The real appreciation lasted just a few years after World War II. And depending on who the U.S. president is, they can really hate us, as they do now with Donald Trump.

So Trump comes in like a bull in a china shop and says this whole existing world order stuff doesn’t make any sense. We shouldn’t be the ones having to defend the world, we shouldn’t, the ones having to feed the world. If we’re gonna do it, you’re gonna pay us. For crying out loud, none of this is fair. And these people are freaking out, and they have been ever since he was elected.

So he shows up to the NATO meeting during the campaign. I’m convinced that one of the reasons the intelligence community, the deep state, were originally appalled at Trump was due to his statements about NATO during the campaign. You know, NATO is like any other bureaucracy. It is set up to perpetuate itself. It is there for its ostensible purpose, to defend member nations against the evil transgressions of tyrannical regimes like in Russia, and at the time East Germany, Soviet Union, what have you.

Now those tyrannical governments are gone or are much smaller, but NATO hasn’t changed its charter. It’s been allowed to exist, it’s got fat, dumb, and happy, and it’s got its own bureaucracy of people who don’t do much and who don’t want to solve much because then there’s no reason to exist. And NATO, like a number of other bureaucracies in the United States, has become a place where the elites exclusively appoint themselves and their children and use it to fatten their lifestyles.

I’m not exaggerating this. That’s why Trump is viewed as such a threat, because he has no respect for that. That’s not what the purpose of NATO is. For him, NATO is defensive in nature. It is there to protect member states against aggression. It’s not there to make sure your kids have a job in the future. It’s not there to make sure that you have three homes somewhere. It’s not there to perpetuate your constant leadership position whether you’ve earned it or not.

It has a specific purpose. That specific purpose has been watered down and diluted, and Trump wants to build it back up. And he thinks the only way it’s gonna happen is if these member states actually pay for what they are getting, what they are being provided.

For the longest time the Europeans didn’t fund any of their own defense. We were putting missiles in Europe to protect them and us against whatever aggression might come from the Soviet Union or from East Germany or from any of the other Soviet — the Eastern Bloc. And that allowed them to become these fat, dumb, and happy welfare states that allowed them to experiment with open borders because their birthrate replacement levels started plunging. They didn’t have enough of their own native human beings to maintain populations, so like Angela Merkel opening up the borders to let immigrants from all over the world in thinking it’s gonna lead to all kinds of new employees feeding new industries and jobs. And of course it’s done nothing but corrupt her culture.

Trump sees all of this and is hell-bent on taking it back to what it intended to be. And there’s so many people who depend on NATO as it has become. Trump is viewed as somebody who’s gonna turn everything upside down, harm them professionally, harm them economically. This will not — especially some guy who in their view isn’t even qualified to be president or to tell them which way is up when it comes to American foreign policy.

Remember when the Democrats in Congress, the media, were telling us that Trump is gonna destroy NATO? That’s what they were originally afraid of. That’s why they got their backs all arched up and out of whack. Trump has actually made it stronger, just like Trump has improved the U.S. economy, just like Trump has improved American trade deals around the world and our status.

He has made NATO stronger than ever by jawboning these other member states into increasing their own defense spending. Western Europe is much more capable of defending itself than it’s ever been. And they are mad as heck at Trump about it.


RUSH: What’s interesting is that Trump is being blasted by the very same people who never wanted him to be elected president because he was blasting NATO, because he was criticizing and ripping NATO for being ineffective. The United States was paying way too much of a burden, not just financially, but in the actual defense of Europe. They were getting off easy. It was time for them to share more of the load, more of the burden, particularly for their own defense. These people wigged out.

“This guy is dangerous. This guy is upsetting the order!”

It’s kind of like those civil servants (whining), “He’s going outside the channels! He’s ignoring the interagency group!” It’s the same thing here. It’s identical. In fact, you remember those people that showed up and testified, Colonel Vindman…? I’m sorry. Lieutenant Colonel Vindman — O say can you see — and then Fiona Hill and what’s her name, Yovanovitch. All these, they’re NATO people. It’s all the same type of bureaucrat/civil servant/diplomat/intelligence official, whoever, and they’re all…

Remember they were wigging out? So what did Trump do? Trump today fired back at the French leader, Macron, who ripped into NATO, saying that NATO is “experiencing … brain death.” Trump called Macron’s comments “very insulting and nasty.” If anybody’s gonna insult NATO, it’s gonna be Donald Trump, but none of these other people are. When they start insulting NATO, he comes to its defense — and the reason is, it’s doing things right for a change now.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: europe; nato; rush; transcript; trumpnato

1 posted on 12/03/2019 11:40:15 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
It’s the same reason this crazy world order that was set up after World War II got set up. Basically, here’s the premise of the current existing world order. It’s unfair that the United States is so big; it’s unfair the United States is so rich; it’s unfair the United States is so prosperous; it’s unfair the United States is so influential and dominate.

I was of the mind that it was more along the lines of not letting any Euro power get too big so as to avoid future wars, and also that the U.S. presence was needed to counter the Soviet presence in Eastern Europe. There were multiple players with multiple motivations.
2 posted on 12/03/2019 11:48:59 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Kaslin

Rush has explained NATO more clearly than I’ve ever understood it before. Thanks Rush!
Now I don’t need to order “NATO 4 Dummies!” online.

3 posted on 12/03/2019 12:01:41 PM PST by lee martell
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To: lee martell

end NATO now, waste of time and money...this has been never been more clear... withdraw from Germany, UK, Italy, etc.

4 posted on 12/03/2019 12:07:14 PM PST by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Perhaps the question might now be asked, “was Europe ever worth saving in the first place?”

5 posted on 12/03/2019 12:14:17 PM PST by abb
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To: Kaslin

NATO is past its shelf life. There is no purpose in regards to American interests.

6 posted on 12/03/2019 12:43:28 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: sheehan

We could pull out today! We only need to promise the recipients of all our “defense spending” that they will get more and more and more money.

We need to be ready to fight a hundred, no two hundred Viet Nam style wars all at once, and with “rules of engagement” which guarantee we never win any of them. We should never actually fight them though, just be “ready.” /sarc

7 posted on 12/03/2019 12:51:27 PM PST by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: abb

It probably was but all Germans who had held positions in the Nazi regime should have been removed in the forties and fifties. Europe should have then been cut loose in 1992 a year after the Soviet collapse.

8 posted on 12/03/2019 12:55:32 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: sheehan; All

“end NATO now”

A unilateral withdraw, today if possible, is the correct cours3e of action for the US.

NATO, with its’ 29 members, is a direct security threat to the American people.

Alas, the reality is that NOBODY in the US would advocate for war with a real nuclear power to protect Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey or any of the Baltic states.

And don’t even get me going on the insane advocates for bringing in Ukraine or Georgia. That would be like the old Soviet Union declaring Texas or California part of their protectorate with the right to defend and place advanced military assets there.

Sometimes the stupid crosses the line over into evil.

9 posted on 12/03/2019 1:28:53 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Kaslin

ALL that Nato and the UN do is cost Americans BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars.

End the funding and spend the money at HOME.

10 posted on 12/03/2019 2:08:04 PM PST by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: Mariner

THESE have been around for DECADES now!!

11 posted on 12/03/2019 6:54:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mariner

12 posted on 12/03/2019 6:57:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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