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Missouri Judge Rules “Safety” Overrides Right to Keep and Bear Arms
AmmoLand ^ | 27 November, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/01/2019 4:48:46 AM PST by marktwain

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To: bk1000

Plus rope/judge.

Some assembly required.


21 posted on 12/01/2019 5:18:54 AM PST by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: unread
leaving open the question of which precise standard of review is to be employed when addressing the Second Amendment...

The precision of the "shall not be infringed" standard works pretty well.

22 posted on 12/01/2019 5:18:58 AM PST by C210N (If you dislike productive billionaires, be 1,000 times more suspect of one confiscatory trillionaire)
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To: marktwain

In the Commonwealth of Massachussetts in 1775, Committees of Safety arrested judges who worked against the People because they issued unfair orders confiscating lands, farms, tools, crops and animals for non payment of punitive royal taxes. The Committees of Safety gave these judges 24 hours to pack up their family goods and leave for Boston with letters patent from the Committees of Safety which terminated their judeships, replacing them with candidates elected by the People.

Looks like we have a need to do it again.


23 posted on 12/01/2019 5:24:32 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: bk1000

Something’s missing in that photo. I can’t quite say what.


24 posted on 12/01/2019 5:25:07 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: marktwain

If a complete prohibition on a large campus of a public university is “narrowly-tailored,” couldn’t a complete prohibition in a city also be “narrowly-tailored”? The District Court failed to develop a bright line distinguishing where Constitutional rights apply and where they don’t.

Instead, he developed a utilitarian doctrine: that if experts “agree” that limiting or outright prohibiting Constitutional rights is good, then those rights can (and, maybe, must) be limited or prohibited. As it is, the judge said the plaintiff offered no alternative empirical argument regarding whether citizens possessing guns are good. He infers from this that there is no such argument (and, implicitly, that the people acted stupidly to enact the Constitutional Amendment that they did.

From his standpoint, he should have offered the plaintiff a continuation to develop such an empirical argument. John Lott, author of More Guns, Less Crime, would make a great witness as to how possession of guns is good. Then, with conflicting testimony as to whether guns are good, he should recognize that it is for the legislature (in this case, the people acting directly as the legislature) to decide the matter.

BTW Because of recent state legislation and court rulings, ten states now have provisions allowing the carrying of concealed weapons on public postsecondary campuses. These states are Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Mississippi, Oregon, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin. May a dozen other states allow persons to keep guns if locked in their vehicles.


25 posted on 12/01/2019 5:25:11 AM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: marktwain
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is “Safety.”
26 posted on 12/01/2019 5:27:34 AM PST by Savage Beast ( The curse of intelligence: having to watch the morons try everything that obviously won't work.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“College students are not only (with very few exceptions) legal adults, they are allegedly the cream of the crop...”

Ha ha ha ha ha! LOL! I don’t care what anyone says, that there is funny!

Allegedly, indeed! Most college students need remedial work as freshmen to get up to prior college entry level knowledge. A whole lot of college students are affirmative action implants to achieve a PC social mix. And a crapload take easy majors (like education) to avoid rigor.


27 posted on 12/01/2019 5:28:29 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: marktwain

Impeach. Convict. Remove. Indict. No plea bargain. Try. Convict. Sentence. Incarcerate. No parole. Precedent established.


28 posted on 12/01/2019 5:30:45 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: marktwain

Impeach. Convict. Remove. Indict. No plea bargain. Try. Convict. Sentence. Incarcerate. No parole. Precedent established.


29 posted on 12/01/2019 5:30:45 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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Notably, the Supreme Court has refused to endorse the application of strict scrutiny to gun regulations, leaving open the question of which precise standard of review is to be employed when addressing the Second Amendment.

Actually, in the Heller decision, the Court endorsed strict scrutiny.

The Court has simply refused to enforce it after numerous lower courts started using "rational basis" tests, and calling them "intermediate scrutiny".

We may see something different on Monday (oral arguments in the NYSR&PC case).

30 posted on 12/01/2019 5:31:38 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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31 posted on 12/01/2019 5:32:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Carl Vehse
Impeach. Convict. Remove. Indict. No plea bargain. Try. Convict. Sentence. Incarcerate. No parole. Precedent established.

Good solution, if Missouri has the politicians to do so.

32 posted on 12/01/2019 5:32:45 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

We don’t have District Court judges in Missouri. They are Circuit Court judges.


33 posted on 12/01/2019 5:37:06 AM PST by gopno1
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This “judge” DIM/lefty political operative is a nitwit and lunatic. Case closed.


34 posted on 12/01/2019 5:41:20 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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RSMO 571.107 (excerpt) No concealed carry permit issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121, shall authorize any person to carry concealed firearms into:

(10) Any higher education institution or elementary or secondary school facility without the consent of the governing body....
2. Carrying of a concealed firearm in a location specified in subdivisions (1) to (17) of this section by any individual who holds a concealed carry permit shall not be a criminal act. If such person refuses to leave the premises and a peace officer is summoned, such person may be issued a citation for an amount not to exceed one hundred dollars for the first offense.


35 posted on 12/01/2019 5:44:09 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: marktwain
"On April 22, 2016, Democrat Governor Nixon appointed Democrat politician Jeff Harris to the position of judge in the 13th Circuit."

This is why you never vote for ANY democrat for ANY reason.

36 posted on 12/01/2019 6:02:24 AM PST by skimbell
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To: marktwain

Next, the necessity to prevent “hate speech” will override right of free speech.


37 posted on 12/01/2019 6:17:49 AM PST by odawg
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To: marktwain

“Safety” can be invoked to overturn or institute any rule or law at all.


38 posted on 12/01/2019 6:22:00 AM PST by arthurus (ccxccc|__|o...>>00Vva|-)
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To: marktwain

Jail for the judge!


39 posted on 12/01/2019 6:25:21 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: marktwain

America’s robed mullahs...as totalitarian as their ME brethren. What does Beto O’Mao say about it? UNFATHOMABLE EVIL permeates the republic and continues unabated.


40 posted on 12/01/2019 6:35:46 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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