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Mayor Pete’s Senior Vote Plan: He wants government everywhere—including a public option 401(k).
Wall Street Journal ^ | November 29, 2019

Posted on 11/30/2019 5:03:31 AM PST by karpov

[Buttigieg's plan would]

• Expand Social Security with “a new special minimum benefit of 125 percent of the federal poverty line for any senior who has worked at least 30 years.” Unpaid caregivers of any “child, elderly, or disabled dependent” would be “awarded credit toward Social Security benefits” as if working for pay—applied in some cases “retroactively by five years.”

Mr. Buttigieg doesn’t say what these additions would cost, but Social Security is on track to go broke as it is. The program is expected to pay more in benefits than it raises in taxes next year, and this funding gap will widen. Modest changes, such as raising the retirement age by one month every two years, would help, but Mayor Pete rules out benefit adjustments. That means tax, tax, tax.

• Raise money by applying unspecified “additional Social Security taxes” to personal income above $250,000. Meantime, “work with Congress to develop options for enshrining a process of automatically adjusting high earners’ contributions to keep Social Security solvent without ever cutting benefits.”

This is a huge tax increase. The current Social Security payroll tax is 12.4%, split between workers and employers. But it applies only to wages of $132,900, after which the tax comes off. Mr. Buttigieg doesn’t specify a rate for his surtax, but he suggests it would cover all high income, from $250,000 to infinity. That would kill the fiction of Social Security as an “earned” program, even if Mayor Pete gives these people new “modest Social Security benefits for their extra contributions.”

• “Institute a Public Option 401(k).” Workers who put in 1.5% of their pay “would trigger an employer contribution of 3 percent.” Companies would be required to participate unless they already offer a 401(k) with a “sizeable employer match” or some other “generous retirement package.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 401k; buttigieg; socialsecurity; taxes
Related thread: Buttigieg proposes public 401(k) option.
1 posted on 11/30/2019 5:03:31 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

Mayor Pete needs to disclose the details of his secret employment with McKinsey &Company, the CIA front Company where he worked for three years.


2 posted on 11/30/2019 5:21:22 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Yeah, sure. I want the government handling my 401k...they did such a fine job on my Social Security account!


3 posted on 11/30/2019 5:35:51 AM PST by Redleg Duke (We live on a tax farm as free-range humans!)
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To: karpov

When Butthead was the failed Mayor of South Bend, Indiana he couldn’t even get the garbage picked up on time.


4 posted on 11/30/2019 5:47:47 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: karpov

Inspite of the fact that women vote for him, America wil not tolerate a Queer President.


5 posted on 11/30/2019 5:52:20 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: EC Washington

Beavis for VP

If Buttigieg gets the nomination I’m sure this slogan will become popular.


6 posted on 11/30/2019 6:16:55 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: karpov

It isn’t public. It’s government indenture.

It isn’t an option if you can’t get out once you’re in.


7 posted on 11/30/2019 6:23:34 AM PST by relictele
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To: karpov

that is essentially what Bush proposed, except he wanted to take part of one’s Social Security Payment and use it like a stock Option a la 401K. Butt wants a totally separate program with its own tax acquisition.


8 posted on 11/30/2019 6:30:51 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: karpov

Where’s the fairness in giving caregivers perks over any other job?


9 posted on 11/30/2019 6:33:01 AM PST by bgill
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To: bert
Inspite of the fact that women vote for him, America will not tolerate a Queer President.

Are you sure of that? nobama qualifies as does his 'wife' if he decides to run.

10 posted on 11/30/2019 6:33:51 AM PST by upchuck (Epstein did not kill himself. Dead fish go with the flow. Epstein? Turns out he didn't kill himself.)
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To: karpov

What is the current poverty rate of income for a single person?

I am on a land line dial up system, so I cannot search worth a darn.


11 posted on 11/30/2019 6:55:39 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: bert
Inspite of the fact that women vote for him, America wil not tolerate a Queer President.

Obama says don't be too sure about that.

12 posted on 11/30/2019 7:01:48 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ridesthemiles
I am on a land line dial up system,...

Those are still around??

13 posted on 11/30/2019 7:02:27 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ridesthemiles
I am on a land line dial up system

A land line dial up is the current threshold for the poverty rate.

Nah, just bustin'yer balls.

14 posted on 11/30/2019 7:08:14 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.>>>)
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To: karpov

Pinko fag.


15 posted on 11/30/2019 7:13:13 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: karpov
Unpaid caregivers of any “child, elderly, or disabled dependent” would be “awarded credit toward Social Security benefits” as if working for pay—applied in some cases “retroactively by five years.”

And how do you prove this? Does this stack with work SS benefits?
For example, the wife's mom works part-time as a sub teacher, and then generally helps watch the kid other days. We only pay her when it's full-time kid watching, but 1-2 days a week we don't. Does that count for Buttie's SS credit? How do we prove how much? Full credit? Partial?
16 posted on 11/30/2019 8:36:11 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: karpov
“Institute a Public Option 401(k).” Workers who put in 1.5% of their pay “would trigger an employer contribution of 3 percent.”

And who's running this program and it's investments? TSP? Or, more likely, a new bunch of people, who happen to be Pete's friends?

Why not simply eliminate SS, and allow people a tax deduction if they put up to 12.4% of their income into a personal retirement plan?
17 posted on 11/30/2019 8:39:03 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: tired&retired

Beavis is Butthead’s Husband


18 posted on 11/30/2019 10:29:17 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: EC Washington

I think that label will stick.


19 posted on 11/30/2019 10:43:31 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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