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California HS shooter used untraceable 'ghost gun,' sheriff says
Fox News ^ | November 21, 2019 | Morgan Phillips

Posted on 11/21/2019 11:04:17 PM PST by familyop

The 16-year-old who shot five classmates...used an unregistered, untraceable "ghost gun" assembled by hand from various parts, according to Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva..."Congress and state legislatures enact all these crimes about gun registration but now the gun industry is creating a way to just bypass the entire thing by creating a mechanism to manufacture weapons yourself," Villanueva said...Thomas Gronenan, detective sergeant with the Suffolk County Police Department in New York, said. “It’s scary..."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; california; foreigndemographics; ghostgun; nra; policestate; secondamendment
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Posted under crime, because "...corruption government abuse, power grabs,..." (posting interface). Articles like this one from Fox News (New York) are devised to push our President to lose the next election with more violations against our Second Amendment.

New York, California and a few other states are maneuvering to become the rebel states of the near future for their foreign interests.

1 posted on 11/21/2019 11:04:17 PM PST by familyop
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By the way, Fox News had this headline for the piece on the front page.

“Calif. has strict gun laws, but HS shooting exposes major loophole”


2 posted on 11/21/2019 11:06:12 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Using one of those “Printers’ can also produce parts to a gun. How would they regulate that? Maybe there are particular materials that are only used to manufacture gun parts, and these materials or compounds can be somewhat controlled.
I don’t know. I have no idea how to construct a working gun,
but many people do know, and have since they were kids.


3 posted on 11/21/2019 11:15:56 PM PST by lee martell
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To: lee martell

They can regulate or outlaw some activities, but they cannot really physically control them. Firearms can be made the old fashioned way with steel and other materials along with a few cheap machine tools. They can even be made with hand tools. Receivers for ARs have been made from aluminum, wood and other odd materials.

It was illegal for the 16-year-old killer in the case being discussed to possess the firearm without adult supervision. And if I remember correctly, it was illegal for him to purchase ammunition in California. Maybe someone in California can tell us about the requirement there for buying ammunition. Is an ID required? California laws have been changing pretty fast.


4 posted on 11/21/2019 11:32:34 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

You have to have a background check to purchase ammunition in California now.


5 posted on 11/21/2019 11:35:21 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Thanks! Is there a minimum age requirement for buying ammo there? Nathaniel Berthow was 16 years of age.

And if I remember correctly, there was a federal law requiring a minor to either have a note from a parent in order to possess a handgun or to have a parent present. There was an exception for agricultural use or something like that.


6 posted on 11/21/2019 11:41:14 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

The evil gun industry. Next on the list of organized criminal operations. Which includes anyone who manufactures or sells guns. Then everyone will just make their own, except that’s illegal too.


7 posted on 11/22/2019 2:13:13 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: familyop

Boy, the CIA and the Commies are REALLY working overtime to try to get new gun-grab laws passed, aren’t they? Shooting up Las Vegas with a bump stock, now shooting up a school with a pistol assembled from “unregistered” parts...


8 posted on 11/22/2019 3:11:18 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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How do the gun grabbers find a way to enact more laws against gun ownership??? It wasn’t an AR-15 so let me see how can we twist this in to a crisis we can use??? AHHHH ... no serial number... It’s a GHOST GUN!!! We need a law against ghost guns! Never let a crisis go to waste.


9 posted on 11/22/2019 3:38:23 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: familyop

To “control” guns, they need to control speech and the press.

Can’t have the knowledge on how to make guns out there.

Americans have had the right to make their own firearms since the beginning of the Republic.

Only now have we fallen so far in tyranny that the power elite it calling to make it illegal to possess the knowledge or tools to know how to make a gun.


10 posted on 11/22/2019 3:44:51 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: familyop
“Calif. has strict gun laws, but HS shooting exposes major loophole”

Not a "loophole". Physical reality.

To Progressives, physical reality is a loophole.

11 posted on 11/22/2019 3:46:51 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Spot on.


12 posted on 11/22/2019 3:48:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: familyop

“ghost gun”!!! It sounds scary, it’s alliterative, it’s perfect!

moralpanic.exe


13 posted on 11/22/2019 4:10:50 AM PST by cdcdawg (Low tax tranny reading hour is conservatism!)
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To: familyop

Crap article.
(They just HAD to quote someone in New York law enforcement?)
He used a home-built .45 which takes a bit of skill to assemble (Harder than an AR).
My guess is that he took it from his deceased dad’s collection, and did not buy anything himself.
Almost identical to the Sandy Hook murderer.
No laws, new or old, would have stopped this.


14 posted on 11/22/2019 4:35:30 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: familyop

Commikazis


15 posted on 11/22/2019 4:41:18 AM PST by xander (Textual correctness unlikely)
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To: cdcdawg

Better put Bill Murray and Dan Akroyd on it right away.


16 posted on 11/22/2019 4:44:53 AM PST by VietVet876
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To: lee martell

The tools necessary are very common. You probably have them in your own garage. If not, you can buy them at Home Depot for a hundred bucks.


17 posted on 11/22/2019 4:51:20 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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To: familyop

A note from a parent? I’m not doubting you but that sounds crazy to the point of ridiculous.

Dear Police,

Jeffrey is allowed to possess this weapon and the bullets in it.

Signed,

Epstein’s Mom


18 posted on 11/22/2019 4:58:29 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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19 posted on 11/22/2019 5:05:18 AM PST by PROCON
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Private gun ownership is outlawed in Mexico. ‘Nuff said.


20 posted on 11/22/2019 5:05:41 AM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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