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'Coup' Concerns Suddenly Don't Seem So Far-fetched
Townhall.com ^ | November 21, 2019 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/21/2019 5:05:47 AM PST by Kaslin

For most of the last three years, Donald Trump's critics have scoffed at supposed "conspiracy theories" that claimed a "deep state" of bureaucrats were aborting the Trump presidency. We have been told the word "coup" is hyperbole that reveals the paranoid minds of Trump supporters.

Yet oddly, many people brag that they are proud members of a deep state and occasionally boast about the idea of a coup.

Recently, former acting CIA chief John McLaughlin proclaimed in a public forum, "Thank God for the deep state." Former CIA director John Brennan agreed and praised the "deep state people" for their opposition to Trump.

Far from denying the danger of an unelected careerist bureaucracy that seeks to overturn presidential policies, New York Times columnists have praised its efforts to nullify the Trump agenda.

On the first day of the impeachment inquiry, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff called his initial two witnesses, career State Department diplomats William Taylor Jr. and George Kent. Far from providing damning evidence of criminal presidential behavior, Taylor and Kent mostly confined themselves to three topics: their own sterling resumes, their lack of any firsthand knowledge of incriminating Trump action, and their poorly hidden disgust with the manner and substance of Trump's foreign policy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: coup; deepstate; presidenttrump; resistance; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: NELSON111; fireman15

Noah Webster aka NELSON111 would disagree with you.


61 posted on 11/21/2019 8:11:24 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I don’t know you-so I’m not taking homework assignments from you. But I will ask you same questions I asked others: did you serve? If so do you still honor your oath? No homework required. Simple questions-but if you think about it carefully-you will see the implications.


62 posted on 11/21/2019 8:13:52 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: central_va
>>>Noah Webster aka NELSON111 would disagree with you

Hey keyboard warrior - go tell RBG I said "hey"

63 posted on 11/21/2019 8:14:41 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: central_va
>>>Noah Webster aka NELSON111 would disagree with you.

But - since you like to yap - and maybe play dress up - let's ask you:

Did you serve and if so - do you still honor your oath? Yes or no?

Because your answers have a VERY SERIOUS implication about who you are if you insist this is a coup.

64 posted on 11/21/2019 8:16:29 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111

I was a naval officer so does that qualify me to call a coup a coup?


65 posted on 11/21/2019 8:18:24 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats are coup coup.


66 posted on 11/21/2019 8:19:32 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Kaslin; Impy; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; ...

The hangings are long overdue to commence.


67 posted on 11/21/2019 8:20:10 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: central_va

Agreed,
JFK’S assassination
May fit that aswell.


68 posted on 11/21/2019 8:23:55 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Wallace T.

Yup,
They did it before.


69 posted on 11/21/2019 8:25:38 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: central_va
>>>I was a naval officer so does that qualify me to call a coup a coup?

OK - GOOD

No - It requires you to do something NOW.

Sedition and (specifically) Treason are handled under the constitution - and apportioned so by Article III, Section III, and various court rulings - to be handled by the government through prosecution of the courts and the department of justice.

When it BECOMES a coup - it is up to people who have taken loyalty oaths to the government [which is BEING overthrown] to FIGHT - using the 2nd amendment - against the traitors who are members of the coup.

If you REALLY think this is a coup - and not sedition (which is a legal matter for Trump's DOJ to handle) - then I expect you to honor the oath you took and to FIGHT.

MAKE ZERO mistake - if I really thought this was a COUP - that's exactly what I would be doing. I have the "technology." That is what every patriot SHOULD do if they have a LOYALTY to a government and there is a REAL COUP. They don't sit back and type about how there is a coup an internet forum.

So - get off your a$$ if you think it's a coup and o what ever other loyal patriot has done when they faced a coup.

70 posted on 11/21/2019 8:27:29 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111

OK here how it works, during the course of this coup d’etat against Trump the conspirators committed ( are still committing ) many acts of sedition and treason. Get it? The overthrow via an organized coup was the goal and the sedition and treason are the vehicles to get them there.


71 posted on 11/21/2019 8:32:57 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: NELSON111
So - get off your a$$ if you think it's a coup and o what ever other loyal patriot has done when they faced a coup.

It hasn't succeeded and IMO it won't succeed. If it were to succeed then all bets are off.

72 posted on 11/21/2019 8:34:31 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

If it’s a COUP - you go honor your oath and get off of FB. That’s the difference. THAT’S HOW IT WORKS. In a COUP - Patriots take up arms in a coup. GET IT?


73 posted on 11/21/2019 8:34:52 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111

It ( the ongoing coup ) hasn’t succeeded and IMO it won’t succeed. If it were to succeed then all bets are off.


74 posted on 11/21/2019 8:35:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
>>>If it were to succeed then all bets are off.

Oh - so Patriots WAIT until their King is dead?

Got it. NIIIICE.

75 posted on 11/21/2019 8:35:41 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111
Oh - so Patriots WAIT until their King is dead? Got it. NIIIICE.

What is that supposed to mean? This is a farce and is going nowhere. I don't take it seriously. It's a joke.

76 posted on 11/21/2019 8:41:14 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: NELSON111
My sister-in-law was in administration in the Air Force and she knew how to work the system. Her daughter is getting a free education including room and board because of her 100% total and permanent disability status. Unfortunately, she is not applying herself the way that you are. She sits around vaping medical marijuana, smoking cigarettes, and drinking booze all day.

She thought she was going to get axed by her new supervisor so she said she hit her head on a cardboard box and went home and never went back. She had surgery to fix a bulging disc in her neck, and eventually achieved 100% total and permanent disability by gaining about 100 pounds combined with a whole lot of whining. When she comes to visit have to push her around in a wheelchair except when she wants to climb our stairs in the middle of the night to satisfy her kleptomania fueled urges to rifle through our stuff.

I went off service after 25 years with money contributed into our retirement fund by the participants. I was starting to have stress related issues. I get 50% less than my sister-in-law and could have gotten more if I used her tactics and claimed a disability. And believe me I have plenty of aches and pains... some from mishaps during my career. Some of my co-workers went off 100% disabled after jumping through plenty of hoops with doctors and others. A few eventually got themselves in trouble when video was taken of them playing soccer, water skiing, carrying bundles of shingles around while roofing, and various other activities that most people would not consider to be appropriate for disabled folks.

77 posted on 11/21/2019 8:48:57 AM PST by fireman15
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To: central_va
>>>What is that supposed to mean? This is a farce and is going nowhere. I don't take it seriously. It's a joke

Then it's not a coup. I've NEVER seen a COUP (your words) or an attempted coup that was a joke. If you've got a historical reference for a COUP that was a JOKE - enlighten me.

78 posted on 11/21/2019 8:49:33 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: fireman15
I've seen it. It's a mess.

Worse yet is I go to the DeBakey VA hospital in Houston for all of my treatment. Look it up sometime. INCREDIBLY HUGE.

When some idgit starts talking about socialized medicine, I ask them if they have ever visited the VA. NO? Do you want to come with me on my next visit to DeBakey? Let's see what your opinion is after that trip.

I never claimed any PTSD. Given my service record, they always ask...and ask....and ask. But something happened once that made me determined I would NEVER do it even if it cost me 100% (before I knew what I was going to get).

I was taking some meds for psoriatic arthritis. It's part of the reason I retired when I did and why I was pulled from my duties and put into a 4-star staffing HQ. Well - this med had some very BAD side-effects (that I was not told about). It aggravated my already bad migraines...and it gave me some VERY BAD depression...and even suicidal thoughts - thoughts I have never had. CRAZY stuff.

Well - I had ZERO clue this was the meds. I thought it was probably PTSD. So - I was just sucking it up - until I watched a LONG commercial on this med (Otezla) and saw that it could cause these symptoms. SO - I read up on it and discovered more - and then decided to stop it cold turkey. Within days I was better - headache wise and no more depression.

SO - I had a neuro consult for my migraines and I just HAPPENED to mention this because it was related to my headaches ad I mentioned how the Otezla made me very depressed but that I was totally fine now.

SURE ENOUGH - they stuck that in my records - that I was depressed.

Given the push for red flag laws - I made the decision at that time - I was keeping my mouth shut if I ever had a problem - which thankfully I do not.

79 posted on 11/21/2019 9:02:02 AM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: arthurus

You’re confusing coup with coup-de-etat.


80 posted on 11/21/2019 9:33:26 AM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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