[Mariner]

As I said weeks ago, quid pro quo obviously occurred, it’s easy to prove and I’m surprised Trump and allies ever denied it.

The real issue is motive for the quid pro quo.

Was it done in pursuit of criminal justice, or to dig political dirt? That is the battlefield.

Trump had reasonable belief a US crime had been committed in Ukraine by a US citizen. That meets the threshold under US law to open an investigation. And makes the request to Ukraine not only legal, but required by treaty.

[patriotspride]

Ken Starr now on Faux news citing Schiff trying to link the third article of impeachment against Nixon - obstruction

Basis. Sondlands I couldn’t get info I needed to refresh my memory.

Starr weasels enough to make it sound like its doomsday.

if he’s being paid to be on Faux , its probably what they wanted him to say as
they still think we take Faux as being “ fair and balanced”

Its all about viewership at this point. Any show that has Cris Wallace commenting I discount.

I like Hemmer, but he has to follow whatever the show directors put in front of him
so lets see how the rest of the day plays out....

Will be very interesting to see Republicans cross on this and how they counter Schiff and Sonderland

[Liz]

The real issue is motive for the quid pro quo. That is the battlefield.
<><> Was it done in pursuit of criminal justice, or to dig political dirt?
<><>Trump had reasonable belief a US crime had been committed in Ukraine by a US citizen.
<><>That meets the US law threshold WRT to an investigation.
<><> Also makes the request to Ukraine not only legal, but required by treaty.

Excellent points.