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Ten Reasons Vindman’s Testimony Was Bad for Democrats
PJ Media ^ | 11/20/2019 | Matt Margolis

Posted on 11/20/2019 7:23:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Forget the Democrats' talking points. Forget the media spin. If you watched Lt. Col. Vindman's testimony today it was a total dud for the Democrats and their impeachment witch hunt. Need proof? I've compiled ten reasons that the show today did not advance the Democrats' narrative one bit.

10. Vindman admitted that the president, not unelected bureaucrats, sets U.S. policy

It’s hard to imagine why pointing this out is even necessary, but Democrat counsel Daniel Goldman seemed to be under the impression that unelected bureaucrats set U.S. policy, not the president.

9. Vindman admitted he never had contact with President Trump

This would be kind of important for such an important witness, don't you think?

8. Vindman admitted having no firsthand knowledge of aid or an investigation and was just “following news accounts”

Once again, this looks really bad for the Democrats. If he doesn't have firsthand knowledge of the alleged quid pro quo, why are we even talking to him?

7. Vindman admitted Trump was “well within his rights” to ask Ukraine for help in an investigation

Which pretty much negates the entire need for this impeachment inquiry, doesn't it? If Trump was within his rights to seek assistance in an investigation, then he did nothing wrong.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 116th; democrats; impeachment; trumpukraine; ukraine; vindman
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1 posted on 11/20/2019 7:23:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Apparently Vindman has been reprimanded for insubordination.


2 posted on 11/20/2019 7:31:52 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

Lt. Col. Flounder, born in Ukraine, thought he should be in charge of our foreign policy towards his home country.


3 posted on 11/20/2019 7:32:41 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
#11. He was advertised as some kind of military hero and came across as a pompous ass who never strayed far from his desk.
4 posted on 11/20/2019 7:34:45 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: dhs12345
Here are the other reasons:

6. Vindman admitted that putting the transcript of the Ukraine call on a secure server was “definitely not unprecedented”

5. Vindman admitted the Trump-Zelenksy transcript was “very accurate”

4. Vindman admitted he has never used the term “bribery” to describe the president’s actions

3. Vindman said he couldn’t recall Ukrainians feeling pressured to do investigations

2. Vindman said, "As far as I can tell," Hunter Biden was not qualified to serve on Burisma’s board

1. Vindman said there was an appearance of a conflict of interest with Hunter Biden being on the Burisma board


5 posted on 11/20/2019 7:36:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Thanks. I don't see how Vindman helps the Democrats and the end goal of impeaching Trump.

Sounds like Vindman is just a disgruntled employee who doesn't like his new boss, a bureaucrat who thinks a lot of himself doesn't like being told what to do, or it is personal with Vindman.

Government bureaucrats don't like people disrupting the process. Maybe a process is old, tired and worn and maybe fresh new ideas are needed. Unfortunately, people can get so caught up in the process that they can't see the forest for the trees.

6 posted on 11/20/2019 7:59:49 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

>>> 8. Vindman admitted having no firsthand knowledge of aid or an investigation and was just “following news accounts” and 9. Vindman admitted he never had direct contact with president Trump

For such self-proclaimed Ukraine Expert, Trump never even acknowledged his existence. President Trump’s biggest “crime’ apparently is that he ruffled Deep State careerists’ feathers (i.e., not taking their advise on How Things Are Done).

He’s sooooo personally pissed off that he himself altered the Trump-Zelensky phone call transcript.

Just remember that when Leftists touted his hero status.


7 posted on 11/20/2019 8:08:11 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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“””””””””’#11. He was advertised as some kind of military hero and came across as a pompous ass who never strayed far from his desk. “”””””””””””

Yes, but paper cuts can hurt. Plus, you could get an infection or something.


8 posted on 11/20/2019 8:12:36 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Sir Napsalot
Norah O'Donnell ✔ @NorahODonnell

HPSCI counsel: “after that conversation [with Pres. Trump], you were still under the impression that the aid was contingent on these public announcements?”

Sondland: “I did not get that from President Trump, but I was under the impression that absolutely it was contingent.”

11:03 AM - Nov 20, 2019

Steven Portnoy ✔ @stevenportnoy

"President Trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on" an announcement of investigations, Sondland says.

He says that conclusion was "my own personal guess," adding it up, as "two-plus-two-equals-four."

10:55 AM - Nov 20, 2019

Here are two more examples of a so-called First Hand Witness injecting his own personal opinion which led to this 'impeachment inquiry' Schiff and Pelosi et al. should be so proud.
9 posted on 11/20/2019 8:13:39 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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Why would Vindman be told the same 'joke' three times?

Why was this even mentioned in an impeachment hearing?

10 posted on 11/20/2019 8:37:25 AM PST by blam
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“He was advertised as some kind of military hero and came across as a pompous ass who never strayed far from his desk.”

But, he always wins when he plays the other guys in the office at “Axis & Allies” after work!


11 posted on 11/20/2019 8:47:11 AM PST by Boogieman
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watch smarmy vindman as he gets caught in a lie

https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1196987091634118657


12 posted on 11/20/2019 8:49:44 AM PST by RummyChick
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“Axis & Allies”

I remember that as being a pretty good game. Haven’t played since the 90’s.


13 posted on 11/20/2019 8:50:58 AM PST by CJ Wolf (Freedom, if you can keep it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because he was Peter Strozk in a Lt.Colonels uniform perhaps?


14 posted on 11/20/2019 9:31:02 AM PST by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

If little smug,seditious pricks inside the Beltway were a dollar a piece, the national budget would have no deficits.


15 posted on 11/20/2019 9:33:23 AM PST by blackdog
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To: dhs12345

If that is true then his career is at an end. Furthermore, if they are P.O.’d enough at him he may be retired as a major, the last rank at which he satisfactorily performed. That has a big impact on his retirement pay.


16 posted on 11/20/2019 10:11:59 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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I heard it on the TV last night. It was “hearsay” so it is better than direct testimony. So I am going with it. :)

I think that he will be treated as a hero now. Or maybe he will be used and then discarded. The Left tend to disrespect anyone in the service. So maybe it will be the latter.


17 posted on 11/20/2019 10:20:00 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


18 posted on 11/20/2019 11:54:45 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Yep, I’m sure all the Nightly News Broadcasts and the NYT above the fold Headlines will be spreading this great news far and wide.

Cough, cough.

Meanwhile all of us living in a Bubble will be celebrating.

Note to self: Never forget, perception always beats reality and Epstein didn’t kill himself.


19 posted on 11/20/2019 11:59:07 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He is a spy/operative for the Ukrainians and the democrats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Vindman


20 posted on 11/20/2019 12:29:11 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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