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Wow if true, then Admiral Green needs to be court marshaled and dishonorably discharged. This turd is clearly butt hurt from President Trump's pardon.

Flagrant Insubordination to the Commander in Chief! Article 134 of the UCMJ at the very least too.

I hope this dirtbag views his TDS was worth losing his retirement. Oh and anyone else involved in this should also deal with the same consequences.

1 posted on 11/20/2019 6:12:50 AM PST by Enlightened1
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Gallagher will be given two choices. Retirement or assignment to the bowels of the Navy until retirement.
He won't get any more missions.
He won't get any additional training.
He will have a non-function job with a single responsibility that he will be harangued over for the littlest infraction.
Basically, he will become a non-entity in the Navy.
32 posted on 11/20/2019 6:41:01 AM PST by Wizdum (The Dems are not afraid a wall won't work, the Dems are TERRIFIED a wall WILL work.)
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It is unclear where the military stands on Trump, or at least where the E ring stands.


33 posted on 11/20/2019 6:44:21 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Part of me thinks this whole story is a workup over nothing.

As much as it can be spun as a defiance of the CiC, the Sailor was convicted of a crime (albeit one that would have been swept under the rug or an article 15 otherwise), and the SEALs are not a unit where convicts get assigned. Service in a special mission unit is not a given, and can be revoked if the servicemember is no longer capable of meeting the standards of service within the unit.

Trump could order the board to disregard the criminal trial in their evaluation of his performance as it was already reviewed by him and other senior military officials and found to be inconsequential in affecting his return to the Teams. If he was a bad SEAL, the rest of his service record and testimony from his teammates would show it, not just that one incident.


36 posted on 11/20/2019 6:46:39 AM PST by jz638
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Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel announced today that the president (Obama) has made the following nominations:

Navy Capt. Collin P. Green, nominated for appointment to the rank of rear admiral (lower half). Green is currently serving as staff operations and planning officer, Naval Special Warfare Command, Coronado, Calif.

Navy Capt. Collin P. Green Nominated for Rear Admiral 04/04/2014

37 posted on 11/20/2019 6:49:07 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Court martial that bass turd.


38 posted on 11/20/2019 6:50:14 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Obama was pretty thorough in promoting leftist military officers.


39 posted on 11/20/2019 6:52:02 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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The CinC restored Chief Gallagher’s rank. The RAMD is not disputing that. He is directing an administrative action of review of Gallaghers fitness to serve as a SEAL over other actions he allegedly did in violation of the UCMJ/Laws of Naval Warfare. Why does the one seem to make everyone loose their heads over the other?

If this all political BS, then fine. I just don’t think the POTUS has to be looked at as the savior of every man in uniform that falls under the crosshairs of military justice.

You guys do know that sometimes warriors in uniform F up, right? They deserve justice, not an intervention by the POTUS.

Some deserve Leavenworth, others deserve medals. Second guessing every action of the brass by the CinC will not help the military.

Scrutinizing the brass for their performance will, however, strengthen the force overall and over time.

We all knew, at various levels of command and staff, who the horse riders or who the horse’s asses were...


41 posted on 11/20/2019 6:54:07 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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This review is certainly the Admirals discretion.

Having reviewed as much as was made public about Gallagher's charges, it's clear that this was prosecution was an Obama Era travesty that never should have happened and that Gallagher did nothing wrong.

Any honorable review board should exonerate him and restore his good name but given the participation of officers who have have run this with hunt that is not likely.

What Trump should do on this is let Green be Green.

If Green does the right and honorable thing and rehabs Gallagher then great.

If Green wishes to continue this farce and further persecute this innocent soldier he should be dealt with appropriately, probably for conduct unbecoming and insubordination.

If this ends up being more vindictive Obama era persecution of a good soldier Green should be made an example of

42 posted on 11/20/2019 6:55:34 AM PST by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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Obama learned from Stalin how to “clean” the military:

https://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2014/04/top-military-brass-purged-by-obama.html


44 posted on 11/20/2019 7:00:29 AM PST by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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Conduct Unbecoming. Dishonorable Discharge now


48 posted on 11/20/2019 7:06:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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The message is clear, the Military doesn’t need Men that fight they need Men and Women that are sensitive to the needs of others.
Persons that show their caring and compassion in all matters.

Soldiers of diversity and inclusion who are not afraid to cry and wear their feelings on their sleeve.

A true military of social justice warriors and climate change activists.


49 posted on 11/20/2019 7:09:35 AM PST by VicVanleeuwenhoek
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Don’t get y’all’s panties in a bunch. This is what happens anytime there is a lack of confidence in a frogman’s ability to do his job. It’s administrative more than anything and is outside the scope of the President’s pardon. If his team mates believe he is no longer an asset, they’ll toss him. I can’t see him staying in the teams. Way too much drama and too many burned bridges.


53 posted on 11/20/2019 7:19:00 AM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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I have serious questions about Esper. He personally met with and argued against the President granting the pardons. Then he says no action better take place against Vindman for his mutiny (leaking the classified telephone call) against the President. Not until the Greens and Vindmans of the world get stomped on will this insubordination and mutiny in the military ranks cease. They are obviously emboldened by others seemingly getting away with treason and nothing happens.


58 posted on 11/20/2019 7:28:45 AM PST by iontheball
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59 posted on 11/20/2019 7:29:01 AM PST by bitt (I hired Donald Trump to fire people like Yovanovitch.)
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Despite the Commander in Chief's pardon, Rear Admiral Collin Green

"Thank you, Admiral Green, for your many years of work on behalf of American national security. Your services are no longer required, Captain Green. Enjoy your retirement, Lieutenant Green.
-PRESIDENT Donald J Trump."

OK … That's what should happen.

61 posted on 11/20/2019 7:31:58 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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court marshaled

When Big Media does stuff like this, we rip on them for being ignorami, and idiots, and not having editors. And rightly so.

COURT MARTIAL … a military, as opposed to civilian, court for trying accusations of crime.

63 posted on 11/20/2019 7:34:39 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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My recollection of history is that leaders of some other countries executed military officers that were disloyal. Hitler and Stalin come to mind, however in those cases it is doubtful if the deceased were given a fair trial, if any at all.

I recommend Vindman, Green and the likes be given the fairest possible trial for treason before being hung. I’m really tired of this crap.


65 posted on 11/20/2019 7:52:55 AM PST by redfreedom
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My political wet dream is for Trump to be re-elected with a strong conservative majority in the Congress. Then he goes scorched earth in cleaning out the Obama era federal bureaucratic , military and judicial holdouts.


66 posted on 11/20/2019 7:53:53 AM PST by Rebelbase
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It’s a review board, yet everyone on here is acting as if it’s a general court martial.

This is SOP for everyone.

He’s still in the Navy, he still has his rank.


68 posted on 11/20/2019 8:34:00 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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> "Rear Admiral Collin Green ..."

Soon to be "Rear Admiral Ended Constipated Green"

70 posted on 11/20/2019 8:51:26 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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