Posted on 11/19/2019 4:43:54 AM PST by blueyon
Nah nah - see that’s a completely misunderstood book and besides, Jesus never said that himself! The episcopal church said so!
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There is that.
Its all part of Obama’s plan to integrate politics into every facet of our lives.
We have no freedom.
That statement is certainly true in the "churches" on the near west and near south sides of Chicago.
I read the post from yesterday and there is nothing new in this post from today.
Chick-fil-a has capitulated to the LGBT crowd. Just that simple.
Feel really sorry for the Salvation Army, et al that have received donations in the past from them.
Curious to know what "active" meant above. Did that mean money was automatically deducted from your paycheck unless you "opted out" in some way?
Your post 96 is as much of a word salad as the verifiable, convoluted statement of the CEO. Do you deny that what was quoted is what was said?
You must have a reading comprehension problem. If you consider direct and specific replies “word salad” that’s your issue. Not mine.
There’s not such thing as a “contract” when it comes to voluntary donations.
Once again I’ll ask. Do you deny that what was quoted as from the CEO and the CFA representative is what what said?
Extreme pressure was put on to donate and there was an “approved “ list of charities for donations - the list was 2 entities long. They didn’t go as far as to force donations but the pressure was very high to donate to UW. The one trick they used was to designate a high up person in the company as the “Honorary” coordinator or director which added even more pressure.
Disgusting tactics.
The money churches get to do good and serve spiritual causes is a drop in the bucket compared to the money manipulated by liberal ‘charities’ that do damage to our Country and Christian values.
You would still give to your church... as would all of us. Maybe even more if you knew they were taxed.
How would you feel knowing your church had to pay a little in taxes but Hillary Clinton, George Soros and half of the Deep State demons in Washington could no longer create massive slush funds to use to destroy Americans and American values?
Maybe in your world, but in mine if I give my word and shake someones hand, and agree to something whether its “voluntary” or not, its a contract.
I’m sure you also believe that the “Scouts USA” is still the same venerable organization it’s always been, by its own claim.
You're quoting a "BisNow" article that was cited. Where is the name of the CFA representative in the Christian Post article? (Answer: nowhere.)
Here is the direct quote from "BisNow" :
The new giving structure moves away from the multiyear commitments Chick-fil-A had with the Salvation Army and the FCA and focuses on annual grants, which Tassopoulos said will be reviewed and assessed each year. Future partners could include faith-based and non-faith-based charities, but the company said none of the organizations have anti-LGBT positions.
So, as I posted several times in this thread, there is no direct quote from any CFA representative that Salvation Army would not (or is "barred") from receiving funds going forward.
The quote above also directly says that multi-year agreements on giving that have expired (as SA's did...) would be reviewed annually and that CFA was moving towards GRANTS. Nowhere did CFA say they would NOT give to SA or any other faith based organization going forward and in fact they went out of their way to say faith based organizations would be included.
Now I have direct experience on this specific issue as my employer does annual grants which requires any organization seeking them to apply yearly. One of my favorite charities (which supports women in crisis pregnancies through birth and the first two years of an infants life) fell off my employers list because the organization forgot to file paperwork to renew. I happened to catch it when I saw my contribution wasn't matched by my employer and helped the org get back on our list.
What CFA is doing is very common and what most large businesses do these days.
And again so you understand it: Nowhere did CFA say they would not grant money to SA, FCA or other faith based organizations. In fact they were very clear that faith based organizations were included.
Saul Alinsky would be proud of your smear. Too bad it doesn't work.
No, BSA is not the same organization they were when I grew up and IMO no parent in their right mind would let their child be a member of it.
“but the company said none of the organizations have anti-LGBT positions.“ faith based or not.
Are you saying SA and FCA have anti-LGBT positions?
I cannot speak to FCA since I know nothing about them, I can speak to SA since I'm very familiar with them. Nowhere in their mission statement or any documentation I've ever read about them do they state they're anti-LGBT. SA's focus is on feeding and sheltering the homeless and spreading God's word.
Frankly, SA doesn't give a rats ass about someone's sins. They care about their soul and their salvation which is only obtained through the blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
See post #30
I'm sorry, but you're just stuck on stupid here. I really don't care what that "community" thinks of Salvation Army or about Christians for that matter. You shouldn't either. Why you seem to care what the people who hate us and our way of life thinks about us is just ridiculous.
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