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Breaking: Italian media reports John Durham is headed to Italy — For third time
www.citizenfreepress.com ^ | November 19, 2019 | Kane

Posted on 11/18/2019 10:04:13 PM PST by rxsid

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To: VideoDoctor

SpyGate Shake-Up: Prime Minister of Italy Fires Top Officials ...
https://pjmedia.com/trending/spygate-shake-up-prime-minister-of-italy-fires-top-officials-from-italian-intel-agencies/
May 17, 2019 ... PM @GiuseppeConteIT has suddenly requested resignations from 6 deputy directors of Italian intelligence agencies: DIS, AISI and AISE...


21 posted on 11/19/2019 4:03:13 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: mass55th
John Surratt was complicit in the kidnapping plot against Lincoln, but he was almost certainly innocent of any involvement in the assassination. The kidnapping plot fell through. (It was a harebrained scheme to begin with.) Following the fall of Richmond, however, Booth impulsively improvised an ad hoc, spur of the moment assassination plan. The kidnapping conspirators had planned to spirit Lincoln off to Richmond and use him as a bargaining chip in peace negotiations (… the South not having much left with which to bargain at that stage. Harebrained, yes.). The assassination plot was an act of revenge, and was profoundly stupid (as all intelligent and/or decent Southerners recognized). Booth pulled together a few of his co-conspirators who were in Washington at the time to kill Lincoln, Johnson, Seward, and Grant. Surratt, fortunately, was out of town. Booth's assassination of Lincoln was the only killing to come off, though Seward was gravely wounded.

Having been an associate of Booth's in the earlier kidnapping plan, however, Surratt could reasonably have expected to hang along with everyone else. He left the country. He did enlist in the Swiss Guards, though he did so under a false name, and I am not aware that the papal authorities had any idea who he was.

As it turned out, the investigations and trials following Lincoln's assassination were a model of restraint. Most governments throughout history would have conducted a broad sweep followed by drumhead trials and wholesale executions. In this case, however, the authorities were remarkably precise and highly disciplined. The assassinators were hung. A small group of Booth collaborators not directly linked to the assassination (e.g. kidnapping plot participants who took no part in the assassination) were convicted and sent to prison for varying terms; this is how Dr. Mudd got his all-expenses-paid visit to the Florida Keys, where he distinguished himself in a yellow fever epidemic and won a commutation. Nothing at all was done to a larger number of Booth collaborators who had been members of the confederate underground during the war but who had no involvement in the two plots against Lincoln.

22 posted on 11/19/2019 4:14:04 AM PST by sphinx
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To: rxsid

Wonder if any of this has to do with what Christopher Steele got up to in Italy...


23 posted on 11/19/2019 4:38:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: rxsid

I hope he packed his pistol and bullwhip. Just incase things get rough.


24 posted on 11/19/2019 5:28:39 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Olive Garden lasagna? I have to send you a tray of my home made lasagna.


25 posted on 11/19/2019 5:31:43 AM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: rxsid

I really tried to read the whole article before commenting, but got to:

“In short, it makes water on all sides.”

and couldn’t go any further.....

Nevertheless, there is likely some truth behind the story, about another Durham visit. We’ll see.


26 posted on 11/19/2019 5:41:51 AM PST by Cap Huff (1776 - Washington fought for us. Since 2016 Washington has fought against us . . .)
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To: rxsid

Badly written article...

...but interesting.


27 posted on 11/19/2019 6:07:23 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Feel bad for you. My Italian business partner doesn’t consider Olive Garden as Italian food at all. I consider it overpriced pasta.

The soup and salad lunch deal is pretty good tho’....


28 posted on 11/19/2019 7:15:01 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: rxsid

What I find interesting here is that both Barr and Durham have gone to Europe themselves on their investigations, instead of relying on subordinates to do their work.

To me, this says something loud and clear: whatever they are dealing with is far too serious to trust to subordinates - they need whatever info they are seeking FIRST HAND.

And, they wouldn’t be going themselves unless they were pretty confident that they would get the info they were after.

Anyone agree?


29 posted on 11/19/2019 7:47:23 AM PST by Arlis
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To: Magnatron

You know that machine translation is getting better when you think it is a badly written article by an English speaking author.

From the article: “Translated by google from Italian”


30 posted on 11/19/2019 8:36:32 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Arlis

I had the same notion the first time I heard both of them were visiting various European countries themselves rather than sending trusted subordinates to investigate. That is highly unusual. It sure does convey the message “We are serious about this and expect you to reciprocate; this is not something you can sweep under the rug.”


31 posted on 11/19/2019 8:38:26 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sphinx

Back in my younger days, I did a lot of research on the Lincoln assassination, and the conspirators. Around 1989, I took my mother on a trip south, and we stayed at Tudor Hall in Bel Air, Maryland. It was the Booth’s family home. At the time it was owned by Dorothy and Howard Fox. They were running it as a bed and breakfast. The Foxes were wonderful people, and eventually they organized P.A.T.H. (Preservation Association for Tudor Hall). I joined the Association not long after its inception, and each year they held a seminar on the Lincoln Assassination and the Booth family in the Maryland area. Many Lincoln Assassination experts like James O. Hall, Harold Holzer, Mike Kauffmann, etc. gave presentations. There were also experts who spoke of the family’s acting history. It was a great time. And up until a couple of years ago, I belonged to the Surratt Society, which runs the Surratt House in Clinton, Maryland, and hosts the Lincoln Assassination Trail bus tours.

I was researching the 55th Massachusetts at the time, and traveled to D.C. regularly to access the records at the National Archives, and old newspapers on microfilm at the Library of Congress. The National Tribune was a paper published in Washington. It was for Civil War veterans, and is supposed to have been the precursor of Stars and Stripes. It is a wealth of knowledge on just about every aspect of the Civil War. I went through it issue by issue, not just in D.C., but had the microfilms sent to my local library on inter-library loan so I could go through them there. While searching for anything on black troops during the war, I came across a lot of interesting articles from individuals regarding President Lincoln, the assassination, etc. I gathered up all these tidbits, and sent them all to Mike Kauffman to see if any of them would be helpful to his research. When his book “American Brutus” was published, he sent me an autographed copy, and mentioned me in the Acknowledgements. I always enjoyed sharing my research, and have acknowledgements in other author’s Civil War related books. All the articles I’d copied from The National Tribune, along with the 8 boxes of Civil War research I had conducted, I gave to the National Guard Museum and Archives in Concord, Massachusetts several years ago.


32 posted on 11/19/2019 8:52:06 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: JoSixChip
Ya, their credible.

Careful! If a source says something favorable to Trump, you must not question it. If you do, the Mods will give you a three day break.

33 posted on 11/19/2019 8:52:16 AM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
The Italian food there must be really good. Send some to me. Olive Garden is the closest, most affordable and good tasting Italian food (their lasagna is to die for) in the No. Virginia/DC area (nothing in DC is really affordable for the working class).

"Try the veal, it's the best in the city."

34 posted on 11/19/2019 8:54:23 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Arlis

Barr and Durham going personally indicates they don’t trust their subordinates. That’s a wise move.


35 posted on 11/19/2019 5:00:11 PM PST by WASCWatch
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