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LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Hearing 15-Nov-2019. Former Ambassador Yovanovitch
Freerepublic ^ | 11/15/2019 | FR

Posted on 11/15/2019 4:34:53 AM PST by Textide

Live thread for today's round of the House Impeachment Hearing starring Marie "happy face" Yovanovitch.

C-SPAN 2 Link

Live YouTube PBS coverage

Link to Nov 13th thread on FR.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: braking; couppeachmenthearing; impeachment; impetuouscrybaby; livecouppeachment; trump; ukraine; yovanovitch
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To: bankwalker

...and that a large portion of it finds its way into their offshore accounts in places like Malta and the Isle of Man.


1,641 posted on 11/16/2019 10:02:40 AM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: 2111USMC

Yea - I am not talking about American money and dictating how it is spent - just the idea our American Mandarins are trying to root out corruption as a culture in these countries overseas (as if Chicago or NYC are foundations of honesty). What doe sit matter to the State Dept if my overseas uncle needs to bribe the local mayor to get my cousin a no show job with the town’s sanitation dept?

The arrogance of these foggy bottom people - they must think they are running an empire.


1,642 posted on 11/16/2019 10:41:44 AM PST by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (MAGA! Deep State Delenda Est.)
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To: bankwalker

Yes, with how American money is spent being the caveat which I did not think was worth mentioning. In most cases foreign aid like military aid is a kickback to American manufacturers - we give the foreign nation the money to buy American weapons for example.

With all that said if our perfumed diplomats need to do all that work to make sure American money is not stolen then that begs the question why are we funneling money to these regimes in the first place? The Cold War is over 0 I don’t care if a country overseas feels vulnerable - let the Germans support Ukrainian welfare.


1,643 posted on 11/16/2019 10:45:20 AM PST by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (MAGA! Deep State Delenda Est.)
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To: Swarthy Greek Immigrant

Arrogant is the PERFECT word to describe these asshats in the State Department.


1,644 posted on 11/16/2019 10:56:53 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Swarthy Greek Immigrant

There are larger interests that may drive such initiatives. ‘American Interests’ is a broad term that provides a foundation for US involvement in foreign affairs. In Ukraine’s case, Russian influence has infected Ukranian governance.

Taking the high altitude view of Russia vs the US with Europe as the battleground, the protection of Europe still commands the attention of the US.

Personally, I would prefer that all US bases in the EU be decommissioned to allow for the more aggressive opponents of the EU to finish it off. Europeans have demonstrated their willingness to be ruled. Let it be so.


1,645 posted on 11/16/2019 11:14:14 AM PST by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: Textide

Few people truly understand what has just happened.

President Trump is a genius, and this is the measure of his genius.

Schiff has denied conventional due process to the President of the United States; the established convention is that due process is guaranteed to the president on historical impeachment process:

1)He cannot confront his accusers,

2) he can have no attorney representing him at these hearings,

3) he cannot cross examine witnesses on the issue of motivation, factual accuracy and credibility

4) The President’s civil rights are being abused

5) President Trump enjoys a public approval rating around 57% of all voters.

These are the 5 ingredients our president has to work with.

The genius of The President is that he has trolled his way into these hearings despite Adam Schiff using every unconstitutional device to keep Donald Trump away.

Through this trolling tweet, President Trump has created an avenue now in which to present his position to the kangaroo court of Adam Schiff, using his solitary right of free speech under the 1st amendment.

This is a significantly powerful moment, an exemplary moment also on how we fight the totalitarian left.

President Trump baited Adam Schiff and he fell for it lock, stock and barrel, and now the president will tweet in live time as these witch hunt hearings proceed, and the MSM will be forced to report them, even if Schiff refuses to address presidential tweets in the future.

In short, the president now is attending the hearings despite every effort by the corrupt Dems to keep him away.

Our president is a genius. And now the real fun can begin as the president can now tear apart every hearsay witness the Dems bring forward.Some of it will be read into the record by Schiff, if he thinks it makes our President appear to be a bully.

The fact is that the president is fighting these totalitarian idiots, and doing a damn good job at it.

This is not witness intimidation, it is valid presidential criticism in lieu of due process whichi is supposed to be guaranteed to the President by the 5th amendment. This is brilliant.

President Trump , yet again, has stolen Adam Schiff’s thunder, so that Schiff is reduced to the auditory volume of a mere fart.

Trump has Not been dishonest about Ukraine. our president knows exactly why policy to invoke in Ukraine and he will do it despite his adversaries.No dishonesty is present, the President has been very properly adversarial.

So much winning! How can we stand it? LOL.


1,646 posted on 11/16/2019 2:35:31 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: elpadre; All

I think they have been asked, but may have been told not to. Don’t have a link.


1,647 posted on 11/16/2019 3:11:58 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Hilary Campaign Headquarters.” Here is evidence:
and here is another photo of his ethical witnesses - one the reasons the Ukrainians complained about her: https://www.gettyimages.ae/detail/news-photo/ambassador-extraordinary-and-plenipotentiary-of-the-united-news-photo/977917798?adppopup=true


1,648 posted on 11/16/2019 3:42:15 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: miserare
I don’t think she’ll look very good in orange!

I want to see her not looking very good in orange.

1,649 posted on 11/16/2019 5:44:10 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: FreedBird

This lady seems to exaggerate her importance. She has a job now. What is the problem?
= = =

She whined about moving about 1000 times, with family, and having security issues.

. . .
So the job in the US should cure all that, right?


1,650 posted on 11/16/2019 5:54:57 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: caww

You asked for it:

This applies better than I first thought - - -

Like A Rolling Stone
Bob Dylan
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you?
People call say ‘beware doll, you’re bound to fall’
You thought they were all kidding you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hanging out
Now you don’t talk so loud
Now you don’t seem so proud
About having to be scrounging your next meal
How does it feel, how does it feel?
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone
Ahh you’ve gone to the finest schools, alright Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
Nobody’s ever taught you how to live out on the street
And now you’re gonna have to get used to it
You say you never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He’s not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say do you want to make a deal?
How does it feel, how does it feel?
To be on your own, with no direction home
A complete unknown, like a rolling stone
Ah you never turned around to see the frowns
On the jugglers and the clowns when they all did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain’t no good
You shouldn’t let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on a chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain’t it hard when you discovered that
He really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal
How does it feel, how does it feel?
To have on your own, with no direction home
Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone
Ahh princess on a steeple and all the pretty people
They’re all drinking, thinking that they’ve got it made
Exchanging all precious gifts
But you better take your diamond ring, you better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him he calls you, you can’t refuse
When you ain’t got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You’re invisible now, you’ve got no secrets to conceal
How does it feel, ah how does it feel?
To be on your own, with no direction home
Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone


1,651 posted on 11/16/2019 5:57:27 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: relee

to easy her way into retirement
= = =

Just what was her Ambassador salary?


1,652 posted on 11/16/2019 6:00:04 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: nutmeg

Streep would take this role...
= = =

Streep would do Marie Yovanovitch AND Shiff.


1,653 posted on 11/16/2019 6:04:39 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: Textide

More accurate is Europeans have demonstrated their willingness to live well off taking advantage of the USA. What do we care if Hungry has a contested border dispute with Romania? Why is it up to some kid from West Virginia to be stationed overseas to prevent Romania and Hungry coming to blows?


1,654 posted on 11/16/2019 7:11:10 PM PST by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (MAGA! Deep State Delenda Est.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Perfect! All of America hates a whiner.


1,655 posted on 11/16/2019 8:06:44 PM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

She already “did” Weinstein, many times .


1,656 posted on 11/16/2019 8:08:48 PM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: Swarthy Greek Immigrant; Jack Black; All

There are levels of corruption. A small payment to an underpaid civil worker for a small problem is one thing. However, they are talking about $40 billion in missing money. There are certainly instances where we have provided weapons, for example, but they did not end up where they were supposed to. And the US taxpayers had paid for them. I don’t want to vote for public officials who would spend my tax money for things that would go into private pockets.


1,657 posted on 11/17/2019 12:30:14 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Excellent point. The corruption that is, obviously, a concern of the US Ambassador, would be if US Aid is being siphoned off by U.S. officials on the way to the intended recipients.

Because that is defrauding her employer Uncle Sam.

Joe Biden, in other words.

1,658 posted on 11/17/2019 6:56:38 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: gleeaikin

The solution DON’T GIVE OUT FOREIGN AID!

I don’t want one dollar going out.


1,659 posted on 11/17/2019 10:26:06 AM PST by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (MAGA! Deep State Delenda Est.)
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