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To: DoughtyOne

I urge all of good will to set their own minimum standard for determine whether to support a candidate. Trump didn’t come close to meeting my minimum standard in 2016, so I helped raise up
a candidate who did. You’re free to characterize my actions as not bothering to vote for Trump, but those are your words, not mine. I chose to support a candidate who met my minimum standard for support. You seem resigned to act differently than me. Amongst your arguments is that judges would stand against presidential action to support and defend the Constitution when it comes to depriving persons of their life without due process. Well, judges are entitled to their opinions, but a President need not abrogate his or her oath just because a court disagrees. You say I’ve turned my back to President Trump. Again, those are your words, not mine. President Trump is our President.

One of the bills he signed into law included a provision that says no money can be spent under that law for abortions, except for some circumstances. Many folks who self-identify as pro-life praise this language. But the Constitution doesn’t allow for any such exceptions. No person shall be deprived of their life without due process. No judge made Trump sign that bill into law. Would you say that Trump has turned his back to the Constitution in this case?


105 posted on 11/14/2019 6:05:39 AM PST by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin

My point Steve, and I’ve backed it up with links, is that Trump is far better than ANYONE has been to date in the Oval Office, when it comes to taking action that will reduce the numbers of abortions in the United States, and abroad.

To this you reply he doesn’t meet your standard.

Prior to this you mentioned you voted for a FReeper, who does meet your minimum standard.

How is that FReeper doing for you today?

How many bills has he signed to save one life. How many Planned Parenthood offices has he deprived of funding?

How many pro-life judges has he appointed and placed on the courts?

On this issue, at a time when you could have supported a man known to disapprove of Planned Parenthood and abortion, and has now become the best we have ever had on Abortion in the Oval Office, you are still proud you voted for a man without a chance of winning, and thereby enabling Hillary Clinton to come just that much closer to becoming president.

Not only did you not help, you helped bring “exponentially worse” even closer to reality.


106 posted on 11/15/2019 10:32:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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