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‘Remember the sabbath’: How one family lives the Fourth Commandment
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | November 8, 2019 | Mary Beth McCauley Correspondent

Posted on 11/08/2019 11:19:48 AM PST by Jagermonster

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1 posted on 11/08/2019 11:19:48 AM PST by Jagermonster
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To: Jagermonster

Okay if you’re Jewish.


2 posted on 11/08/2019 11:22:45 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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It’s always okay to obey the Ten Commandments.


3 posted on 11/08/2019 11:23:57 AM PST by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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To: Jagermonster
‘Remember the sabbath’


4 posted on 11/08/2019 11:26:50 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Jagermonster

You cannot. In either thought, word, or deed you’d blow it. Besides, it’s not the Ten Commandments - it’s nine with a statement; plus the Ten are only a part of the full commandments of G-d to the Jews - there are over six hundred and if you blow one, you’ve blown them all. That’s what Yeshua did on the Cross - when He said “It is finished” He was saying He fulfilled all the commandments of G-d.


5 posted on 11/08/2019 11:26:53 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: humblegunner

Love it. Iron man and electric funeral. :D


6 posted on 11/08/2019 11:31:01 AM PST by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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This woman undoubtedly went through a Reform “conversion” which means she is still a non-Jew. She is “observing” a parody of authentic Judaism—Reform “judaism”—so any references to ritual observation here should be viewed as Jewish-like, not Jewish. It is interesting that the Monitor chose a Reform family whose wife almost certainly did not undergo a truly kosher authentic conversion and who attends a Reform institution. If they wanted to write a story about how the Sabbath affords busy people a sanctioned relief from their harried lives, why didn’t they interview an equally professionally accomplished Orthodox woman? I think the story would have been ever so much more meaningful, as the much more complete cessation of worldly matters presents a far greater contrast between the secular work week and the holy Sabbath.


7 posted on 11/08/2019 11:31:22 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: Jagermonster

When we were first married my wife and I decided that by not spending money on the Sabbath it would help us to not cause others to work.
It helps as a reminder when I “just have to have” something right now.


8 posted on 11/08/2019 11:37:19 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: SkyDancer

I’m Christian, my wife is Jewish Christian.

You are correct. We all fall short, we all sin.

However, my wife and I light sabbath candles and say the prayers every Friday evening.
Being human, it seems like we need something, some kind of tradition or procedure on this earth to do.

One thing I really love about Jewish Christians, they keep some of the things they always had, some of the most beautiful things that express their love and respect for the Almighty.

Like you, not writing out His name. Quite beautiful.


9 posted on 11/08/2019 11:46:09 AM PST by David Chase
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He was saying man was redeemed with His death. Man’s iron clad no way out death was ended there. “It is finished.”

He was not saying all laws ceased. Ceremonial sacrificial laws pointing to a sacrificial lamb were no longer needed.

There may have and probably were many laws that pertained to the Children of Israel due to their 40 year trek through the wilderness, concerning things from hygiene and social mores relating to the groups exposure to the ill effects of some personal activity.

Name one other thing out of the Ten Commandments that we are not to observe now? If the nine are to be observed, why not the one dealing with the Sabbath?

Jesus died and was buried before sundown on Friday. He arose after the Sabbath was over.

Seems to me He made it pretty clear the fourth commandment Sabbath was still an important commandment.

At no time are we specifically told never to follow the Ten Commandments, particularly the fourth pursuant to this discussion.


10 posted on 11/08/2019 11:49:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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[W]hy didn’t they interview an equally professionally accomplished Orthodox woman?

Couldn't tell you, but I suspect they're interviewing a bunch of different types of people. In the piece they did on the First commandment, they're focusing on a dentist who went to Oral Roberts University. In the piece on the second commandment, they profile an ex-con. In the piece they did on the third commandment, they profile a Presbyterian lady who prepares charity Thanksgiving dinners for 1600 people.

I'm interested to see how people apply God's law in their daily living.
11 posted on 11/08/2019 11:52:09 AM PST by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Didn't say that. What I said was either in thought, word or deed you blow all of them. The Sabbath (Saturday) is for Jews. Sunday is not the Sabbath unless you are either Jewish, Seventh Day Adventist or the poster of the original here.

And again, the Ten Commandments are only part of the complete commandments of G-d.

The first line of the Ten Commandments is a statement: "I Am the Lord Thy G-d" which is a statement then follows Thou shalt not etc, etc.

12 posted on 11/08/2019 11:55:16 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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I’m in church on Sundays. I don’t think God minds which day of the week we dedicate to Him.


13 posted on 11/08/2019 12:02:02 PM PST by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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Sorry, but you lost me when you stated the Ten Commandments written with God’s own finger are the same as any other.

As for the number of commandments, I’m not inclined to nit pick about them. If it’s important for you to think there were only nine and toss that in the mix every time the topic comes up, go for it. You’ll see a lot of yawning.

I hate to break it to you, but if you are a Christian, your faith goes back to the Ten Commandments. It was not just for the Jews. What do you think Paul was all about, spreading the word to the Gentiles?

The official sabbath change did not take place until 321ad.

It was set by a man, not God.


14 posted on 11/08/2019 12:05:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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To: Jagermonster

I’m in church in my mind every day - don’t have to go to a building but I do any to be with like minded people.


15 posted on 11/08/2019 12:05:16 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: DoughtyOne
The Ten Commandment are part of the whole deal of commandments; they may have been the first ten that G-d pronounced, dunno, I wasn't there. You should read the commandments in the OT that Jews had to follow. And I also repeat you cannot fulfill the Ten Commandments because either in thought, word, or deed you will blow it.

This is all I have to say on the matter. Have a Nice Day.

16 posted on 11/08/2019 12:08:14 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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I’m in church in my mind every day - don’t have to go to a building but I do any to be with like minded people.

No argument here.
17 posted on 11/08/2019 12:09:03 PM PST by Jagermonster ("God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16, NKJV.)
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I don’t want to get into that discussion directly, but I will provide food for thought.

I believe that it is pretty clear in the Garden of Eden what God expected of man related to the sabbath. He blessed the Seventh day and sanctified it. No other day was blessed by God as a pairing between him and man.

At the cross Christ died and was buried prior to sundown when the sabbath started. He awoke after the sabbath had ended.

Here thousands of years apart, the sabbath was still something to be reckoned with.

God requested a sacrifice of an animal from Able and Cain to point forward to the Sacrificial Lamb, who would purchase the souls of humans back from Satan. Cain brought fruit to sacrifice, and God would not accept it. Cain wound up killing able out of jealousy.

Man was urged to separate from his parents and couple up with a woman. Now men couple with men and women couple with women. Should we merely say that God doesn’t really care any longer about that sort of thing?

You see, Satan is the great deceiver. If he can’t get you to openly forsake God, he’ll try to bend the rules, so that you can still claim to yourself that you are adhering to God’s command. It’s up to you how you come down on that.

I’m not going to make any claims about what God will judge people by. It’s up to each of us to determine that for ourselves, after due diligence.

You are not off base with common orthodoxy these days. What you stated is commonly held to be true.

Take care.


18 posted on 11/08/2019 12:19:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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The official sabbath change did not take place until 321ad. It was set by a man, not God.

We print calendars that put Sunday as the first day of the week, but in practice we begin our week on Monday, and (also) call Sunday the second day of the weekend, meaning that for all practical purposes we work from Monday to either Friday or Saturday, then take Sunday off, resting on the seventh day of our week. How we handle Sunday then becomes the issue.

19 posted on 11/08/2019 12:21:31 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SkyDancer

Or Seventh Day Adventist


20 posted on 11/08/2019 12:22:56 PM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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