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'Game-Changer' Warrant Let Detective Search Genetic Database
NY Times ^ | November 6, 2019 | Kashmir Hill and Heather Murphy

Posted on 11/07/2019 3:19:24 AM PST by C19fan

or police officers around the country, the genetic profiles that 20 million people have uploaded to consumer DNA sites represent a tantalizing resource that could be used to solve cases both new and cold. But for years, the vast majority of the data have been off-limits to investigators. The two largest sites, Ancestry.com and 23andMe, have long pledged to keep their users’ genetic information private, and a smaller one, GEDmatch, severely restricted police access to its records this year. Last week, however, a Florida detective announced at a police convention that he had obtained a warrant to penetrate GEDmatch and search its full database of nearly 1 million users. Legal experts said that this appeared to be the first time a judge had approved such a warrant, and the development could have profound implications for genetic privacy.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: genetics; privacy

1 posted on 11/07/2019 3:19:24 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Dangerous ground being broken here.


2 posted on 11/07/2019 3:24:59 AM PST by Ron H. (Gab.com)
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To: C19fan

Talk about a No Knock Warrant...

Hitler would be proud.


3 posted on 11/07/2019 3:27:54 AM PST by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: C19fan

I expect, within five years...that every single murder or rape case will be solvable, if there is DNA on the scene. However, it’ll mean tons of research time after they find the ‘link’ in the DNA databases, and sorting through potential match-ups.


4 posted on 11/07/2019 3:28:57 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: C19fan

bmp


5 posted on 11/07/2019 3:31:24 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: pepsionice

I get notifications of “new relatives” all the time. Most are like third, fourth of fifth cousins.

That is pretty far back in the family tree. That’s a lot of family groups and are very spread out.

Would take tons of man hours to sift through, research and send out interview teams.


6 posted on 11/07/2019 3:38:05 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: C19fan

If you didn’t see your DNA becoming public domain you’re dumber than I am.


7 posted on 11/07/2019 3:43:54 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: pepsionice
I expect, within five years...that every single murder or rape case will be solvable, if there is DNA on the scene.

You clearly do not understand how much DNA is everywhere.

I see many innocent people being convicted simply because their DNA was found at the scene.

Criminals will learn how to leave another person's DNA at the crime scene and/or on the instruments of crime.

When fingerprinting was first used, people said the same thing.....all crimes will be solved....these are just tools that help....not a cure-all.

8 posted on 11/07/2019 3:44:55 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: C19fan

Having your DNA in Gedmatch is like having your name in the phone book. There is no expectation of privacy.


9 posted on 11/07/2019 4:25:25 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: C19fan

A lot more mistaken arrests coming.

Even with the controls implemented with police dna testing, mistakes are made.

There is zero guarantee of any controls implemented by these companies. A minimum wage admin can mistakenly file someone else’s record in your name.

This is why the dna test you take is under a hundred bucks and the professional one is over a thousand.


10 posted on 11/07/2019 4:41:22 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Drango
Having your DNA in Gedmatch is like having your name in the phone book. There is no expectation of privacy Everyone who submits their DNA to them is looking for a match. That is the purpose of their database. If you don’t want the police to use it to solve cold cases, don’t submit your DNA to GEDMatch.
11 posted on 11/07/2019 6:02:44 AM PST by centurion316
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To: fruser1
A lot more mistaken arrests coming.

No one is using Gedmatch to positively identify a suspect. It only points to someone, the police then collect the perps DNA and it is used to positively identify the suspect.

12 posted on 11/07/2019 6:55:25 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: Drango

And to get that DNA the suspect is arrested.

Since it’s for a felony, this could include middle of the night no knock warrants.

If they happen to get the right guy no biggie.

If not, I’d call that a mistaken arrest.


13 posted on 11/07/2019 7:02:35 AM PST by fruser1
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And to get that DNA the suspect is arrested.

I don't know of any such case. The Golden State Killer, and other recent cases, were put under surveillance and they got the DNA from the trash or a cigarette butt. (don't remember). In one case the cops brought the suspect in for questioning, gave him a coke, and got the DNA from the can after he left.

If you know of a case where genetic DNA was used for an arrest without collaborating CODIS DNA please name it.

14 posted on 11/07/2019 7:13:13 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: centurion316
If you don’t want the police to use it to solve cold cases, don’t submit your DNA to GEDMatch.

That won't really help. If your sister decides to submit hers, unless you're adopted, they can certainly use that for correlation.

15 posted on 11/07/2019 8:02:09 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: zeugma

No doubt, that’s the way DNA works. The genie is out of the bottle, while you may have some control of your DNA, you have none for the DNA of your sister or cousin, and the feeble attempts to write laws to do this will fail.


16 posted on 11/07/2019 9:32:13 AM PST by centurion316
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To: PeteB570
Would take tons of man hours ...

But not long with computers.

17 posted on 11/07/2019 10:54:52 AM PST by ladyjane
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