Posted on 11/04/2019 12:09:02 PM PST by Kaslin
As polling on impeachment again dominates the news cycle, it’s worth revisiting the issue from the perspective of those who support President Trump. As I’ve noted here before, it’s important not to get too wrapped up in these polls. However, it would also be unwise to take the position that there’s no validity to any of them or the patterns they represent. Statistical sampling, done properly, IS a thing, and political types should indeed take polling seriously. However, such polls merely represent public opinion during a very specific window. Right now, a complicit, Trump-hating media is pushing impeachment like candy-flavored crack, purposefully duping many into falsely thinking that POTUS actually did something illegal and somehow deserves being removed from office.
That said, though there is definitely an entrenched percentage of the population that would hate the Bad Orange Man even if he personally wrote them a check for a million dollars each, I believe the national opinion isn’t quite as ‘anti-Trump’ as the media would have us believe. Last month, I wrote about how Fox News’ “bogus” impeachment poll essentially shifted the national narrative - unfairly - to that of a majority of Americans supporting the impeachment and removal of President Trump from office. The problem, as I and many others saw it, was the fact that this poll and others like it failed to control for political party identification, thus almost always under-sampling Republicans.
According to Gallup, 31 percent of Americans identify as Democrats, 29 percent identify as Republicans, and almost 4 out of 10, or 38 percent, identify as Independents. So, if polls want to give an honest assessment, it would seem logical to think they should control for political party identification with as much gusto as they control for other factors such as race, education, age, etc. Instead, the official “Fox News Poll Methodology Statement” says: “Generally, weights are only applied to age, race, education, and area variables. The Fox News Poll is not weighted by political party.”
Instead, what we generally get is Democrats, for whatever reason, being polled and/or responding to polling at a significantly higher rate than Republicans. Last month, 48 percent of Fox News’ poll respondents identified as Democrats and 40 percent were Republicans. That’s an eight percent difference, with only the remaining 12 percent Independent. The mid-October result on impeachment? 51 percent, or a newsworthy national majority, wanted Trump impeached and removed from office.
This month, Fox News’ latest poll had a similar sample, albeit a slightly different, but significant, outcome. This time, Democrats outnumbered Republicans statistically to the tune of 49 percent to 41 percent, with Independents making up the rest. That’s still an eight percentage point difference. Of the Independents who did make it into this poll, those who do not favor Trump being impeached and removed from office lead those who do by a significant gap, at 47 to 38 percent. As for the non-independents, party identification pretty much dominates how respondents feel about the question of impeachment, with an overwhelming percentage of Republicans wanting to keep the president in office and a similarly overwhelming percentage of Democrats wanting to see him gone. But as many of Trump’s defenders have pointed out, Democrats have been wanting to see Trump gone since January 2017. So, that’s nothing new.
But Fox News isn’t alone. The recently-released NBC/Wall Street Journal poll had a similarly distributed sample. In that poll, 43 percent of respondents identified as a Democrat while only 35 percent identified as Republican. In that poll, 14 percent were “Strong Independent” and another 8 percent weren’t sure. It also found 49 percent backing Trump’s impeachment and removal.
“I have the real polls,” Trump said Sunday in response to the polling news, calling the Fox News polls “lousy” and saying they should “get themselves a new pollster.” Maybe he’s referring to internal polling, but still, it’s a pretty safe bet that a vast majority of Democrats want the president removed. But again, that’s no different than the landscape looked the moment he assumed office.
In truth, President Trump doesn’t need to win the impeachment polling wars, as long as he wins the impeachment vote in the Senate. He doesn’t need to win the approval ratings either, or even a majority of voters, as long as he wins the electoral college in November 2020.
I self identify as an independent. I would cut off my arm before I would vote democrap.
Hence, this author is a joke. So is Town Hall so are ALL old-media outlets.
—> Paul Ryan
FOX News Pushes Fake Impeachment Poll… 49% of Those Questioned were Democrats!
Hillary is President since all polls are correct.
In other news.....
Like most polls put out by the media, these “impeachment” polls are nothing more than just another psychological warfare they have waged for the last 4 years.
And Hillary was supposed to win in a landslide. I will never trust another Trump poll, not ever.
They over-sampled Dems by 19 points.
The only people who believe them are the press ..or pretend to
Poll question: Was it wrong for President Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate political rival Joe Biden?
Real question: Is it wrong for President Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate corruption when our tax dollars are in question.
Nothing. Push Polls don’t work on the silent majority.
The electorate is 30%D, 30%R and 40%I.... they polled almost 49% D, and came up with a 49% support impeachment ... this is absolute GARBAGE POLLING...
ITS HORRIBLE SAMPLING AND I WOULD BET EVEN WORSE WEIGHTING.....
More 97% Hillary will win in 16 nonsense...
Ignore the crap...
Not one poll, not a single one since Trump took office has shown him LOSING ANY SUPPORT.... in fact, they all show him when you dig in the internals GAINING support... but you are going to believe that the public supports impeachment over a phone call that they released the transcripts from ???
Its push polling designed to be used for gas lighting, astroturfing... Reality is what WE TELL YOU IT IS LITTLE FLY OVER MORONS... YOU THINK WHAT WE TELL YOU TO THINK...
This sort of polling exists only to gas light the foolish and to be cited by manipulators inside the beltway in attempts to sway back boneless legislators.... IGNORE IT... Call your Rep and Senator and tell them you will see them in hell if they support this crap.
You said it.
Toilet paper.
5.56mm
That is one promise I made to myself, and that is one promise I will keep
After HRC’s glorious, poll-predicted victory, I believe every single poll I read!!
This is just part of the coup. They are trying to wear down supporters of the President. The Liberal Supremacists are EVIL. I’ve always known that, but didn’t recognize the depths of it until the Kavanaugh hoax.
We need to play by their rules. To paraphrase M. Obama, “when they go low, we go lower.” We will not win if we don’t.
Invalid polls are another way of manipulating people. Even though they are not winning the populace they want to present themselves as if they are so they can get others to jump on that winning bandwagon with their candidate/party.
If is simply another form of lie the the left tells to try and sway the vote.
Polls today are manipulated lies done by professional for the specific purpose of manipulating voters.
Ignore them.
IE, Hil LIAR y is not president.
Psycho-social manipulation via pseudo-demographics.
“be part of the herd. This is what the herd thinks/believes.” “don’t be alone, think/believe with the herd.”
And...
“this is where you should donate your money. This person can win because polls say so, so donate your money.”
Faux news headquarters are in New York city, the leftist sewerhole of the east coast, so you know what kind of employees they have. They are as reliable as CNN and the only reason they have people like Pirro and Hannity on is $$$$, ratings and they already suspended Pirro for questioning the patriotism of a antisemitic terror supporting Somali in Congress which tells me all I need to know about Faux.
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