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Trump Impeachment Starts More Partisan Than Bill Clinton's
Axios ^ | 11/1/19

Posted on 11/01/2019 4:35:31 AM PDT by Helicondelta

During the House's historic vote to set the ground rules for the impeachment of Donald J. Trump, members shouted and booed as the votes popped up in lights on the wall above them.

Why it matters: The Legislative Branch embarks on its ultimate weapon against the Executive Branch with the two parties locked in corners.

You could see Republicans shaking their heads as the "Yea" votes soared. Speaker Pelosi lost only two Democrats; no Republicans crossed over.

Flashback: It wasn't this stark 21 years ago, for the 1998 vote launching the impeachment of William J. Clinton: 31 Democrats joined all Republicans in setting up a formal process for considering impeachment

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 116th; speakerpelosi; tds; witchhunt
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1 posted on 11/01/2019 4:35:31 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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To: Helicondelta

From this point forward, if the opposition party holds the House, every president will be impeached.


2 posted on 11/01/2019 4:38:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: Helicondelta

Schumer to Pelosi & Schiff: “ I fear that you have just poked and awoken a silent majority!”


3 posted on 11/01/2019 4:40:13 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Helicondelta

“More partisan” should read, “entirely partisan.”


4 posted on 11/01/2019 4:40:19 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: Lazamataz

Only Republican Presidents will be impeached by this method. A Republican led house would not play by these rules.


5 posted on 11/01/2019 4:42:39 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: Helicondelta

The Democrats need to be sent back to Russia where they belong.

Without all the money they have stolen.


6 posted on 11/01/2019 4:43:07 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Lazamataz

Does anyone actually believe this country can actually hold an election anyone will respect? Trump is the last president. They have broken the country...and that’s a good thing.


7 posted on 11/01/2019 4:50:16 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Helicondelta
There are two key differences between the Clinton Impeachment and the Trump "Impeachment":

  1. The Trump "Impeachment" is far more partisan.

  2. Clinton actually committed crimes.

8 posted on 11/01/2019 4:53:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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TALKING POINTS: Americans demand to know Why this is being withheld from the American people? Ukraine entered into the "Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters," negotiated then- by President William Clinton and ratified by the U.S. Senate in 2000. The US chief law enforcement officer requested that Ukraine assist our AG in investigating possible criminal activity in 2014 through 2016.

Pres Trump is being impeached for following US law initiated by then-Pres Clinton. Perhaps the Clintons do not want their activities with Ukraine exposed?

<><> A 2015 WSJ report includes a chart of “foreign donors” to the Clinton Foundation showing “Ukraine” as a top donor among a list of large donors including “foreign individuals and their foundations and companies" while Clinton was secretary of state from Jan. 21, 2009 to Feb. 1, 2013.

<><> Victor Pinchuk, a former Ukrainian parliamentarian and businessman whose father-in-law is a former president of Ukraine is a connected Ukrainian who served two terms as an elected member of the Ukrainian Parliament and is a proponent of closer ties between Ukraine and the European Union.is a connected Ukrainian who served two terms as an elected member of the Ukrainian Parliament and is a proponent of closer ties between Ukraine and the European Union.”

<><> The Clinton Foundation publicly reports, and its foundation spokesman confirmed, that other foreign entities have given more than the Pinchuk Foundation (which is listed as having given between $10 million and $25 million).

<><> Between 2009 and 2013, including when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation based in Kiev, Ukraine, the Journal reported.

<><> In 2008, “Mr. Pinchuk made a five-year, $29 million commitment to the Clinton Global Initiative (a wing of the foundation that coordinates charitable projects) "to train future Ukrainian leaders and professionals to modernize Ukraine," according to the Clinton Foundation.

<><> Several alumni of the Clinton program are current members of the Ukrainian Parliament.

<><> Ukranian Pinchuk was especially generous---not only blanketing the Clinton Foundation with money, he hired Hillary for a $300,00 speech to help him boost Ukraine's creds; even Chelsea got into the act. CIRCA 2013----Ukranian billionaire Viktor Pinchuk hires Hillary to give a speech at a Ukraine forum discussing regime change, exiting Russia....and hitting up the US for more foreign aid.

9 posted on 11/01/2019 4:56:36 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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Key Ukrainian oligarch, Viktor Pinchuk, was especially generous---not only blanketing the Clinton Foundation with money,
he hired Hillary for a $300,00 speech to help him boost Ukraine's creds; even Chelsea got into the act.

CIRCA 2013----Ukranian billionaire Viktor Pinchuk hires Hillary to give a speech
at a Ukraine forum discussing regime change, exiting Russia....and hitting up the US for more foreign aid.

Ukraine oligarch Viktor Pinchuk gave $29 million to the Clinton Foundation.....he's THAT altruistic (cackle).

Chelsea Clinton and Viktor Pinchuk in Kiev, Ukraine 8/21/16.

10 posted on 11/01/2019 4:58:19 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Helicondelta

This sham distraction suggests the IG/Barr criminal investigations are devastating to Deep State democrats, the media, and especially Hussein and his staff.


11 posted on 11/01/2019 4:59:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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"This sham distraction suggests the IG/Barr criminal investigations are devastating to Deep State democrats, the media, and especially Hussein and his staff."

Which will only be worthwhile if these individuals are held accountable.

I'm not holding my breath...

12 posted on 11/01/2019 5:10:55 AM PDT by DJ Frisat ( (optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: JohnnyP

I read last night that these rules are NOT from the ‘founders’
as the liars were saying yesterday. These rules are a product
of Alcee Hastings in 1989.
Also the whistle blower act is from 1989, most likely by crooked Alcee Hastings.


13 posted on 11/01/2019 5:22:34 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We keep hearing that, yet little seems to be happening. I am reminded of the old Far Side joke; one vulture to the other: Patience, my a$$, I’m going to kill something.


14 posted on 11/01/2019 5:27:28 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Youth, speed and energy can always be overcome with experience and treachery.)
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To: Helicondelta

The GOP base the real heroes in all this - my complete respect and gratitude to the GOP loyal base that keeps these GOPe in line. I don’t trust the GOP Establishment one bit.


15 posted on 11/01/2019 5:29:31 AM PDT by Swarthy Greek Immigrant (MAGA! Deep State Delenda Est.)
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To: Helicondelta

Bubba Clinton lied to a judge, in court.

The current effort is to make sure no foreign leader will speak with our president on the phone

Schiff must die. He is a menace and an American enemy playing lawyerly games.


16 posted on 11/01/2019 5:31:42 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Lazamataz

No, the GOP won’t go there. They would be crucified by the MSM.


17 posted on 11/01/2019 5:34:08 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Helicondelta

The election ads are just writing themselves. The American people really don’t like injustivpce.

Imagine you were accused of something and the judge could forbid your lawyers from allowing your witnesses to testify. Imagine you never got the chance to face your accuser or to question them. Imagine the judge already determined your guilt and talked about it publicly. That’s the kind of America Rep So and So voted for. Do you really want someone like that representing you?


18 posted on 11/01/2019 5:35:31 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Look into it does not mean dig up dirt, it means find the truth)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"This sham distraction suggests the IG/Barr criminal investigations are devastating to Deep State democrats, the media, and especially Hussein and his staff."

Wasn't it something like five billion dollars that sent to the Ukraine and went missing..?? You could sure buy a lot of friends with that kind of scratch..

19 posted on 11/01/2019 5:36:01 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: DJ Frisat

“This sham distraction suggests the IG/Barr criminal investigations are devastating to Deep State democrats, the media, and especially Hussein and his staff.”

The problem is that these investigations take time...Look at the IG report. Every 2-3 months we are told that it is due any day now. ..and this is a very limited investigation. I think the left knows that any investigation by Barr and Durham can easily be stalled beyond the 2020 elections. After that, when they take over, Barr will be replaced by a Deep Stater and everything will be shut down


20 posted on 11/01/2019 5:37:29 AM PDT by RonnG (')
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