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Army Officer Who Heard Trump’s Ukraine Call Reported Concerns
Me-- many sources and the NYSLIMES craphole ^ | 10-29-2019 | NY slimes run of the mill toadies

Posted on 10/29/2019 10:48:29 AM PDT by John S Mosby

"The top Ukraine expert at the White House will tell impeachment investigators he twice reported concerns about President Trump’s pressure tactics on Ukraine, acting out of a “sense of duty.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bidens; mobsters; russian; ukraine
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To: Kickass Conservative

I’ve been saying this for 1.5 years.
“Seven Days in May”


41 posted on 10/29/2019 11:34:13 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: John S Mosby
Vindman is NOT a Ukrainian name-- it is German. Point one. Mother died in Ukraine (Mom and Dad, Ukraine WWII survivors of Stalin-- read: pro German if not German descent. The Ukrainians cheered the Nazis as Liberators from Stalin- hint, hint

"Decorated US officer testifying on impeachment is a Jewish refugee from Ukraine"

https://www.timesofisrael.com/decorated-us-officer-testifying-on-impeachment-is-a-jewish-refugee-from-ukraine/

42 posted on 10/29/2019 11:34:43 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: G Larry
The request was NOT "improper" and it was NOT quid pro quo

You are playing the RAT's game.

EVEN IF there was a quid pro quo offered to uncover evidence of a crime or crimes, this would be WELL WITHIN the authority of the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the United States (which is Donald Trump).

The investigation of crimes often requires negotiation with persons with knowledge of the crime(s), and sometimes involves various trades (quid pro quo).

The Democrats are going to prove Trump offered something, or threatened something, to get information on the obvious, naked crimes of the Bidens. Whetheer this is true or false doesn't matter, they will "prove" this through perjury and 24/7 media blitzing - even if it's not true.

But it may very well be true. If withholding an aid package got the Ukraine to give up Crowdstrike, for example, Trump should get a medal for it.

Defend him because he was RIGHT, not because he didn't do it. They will have the means to nail him for doing it once Republicans all buy into the idea that IF he did it, he should be removed.

43 posted on 10/29/2019 11:40:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: John S Mosby

The Swamp is vast and deep. It never has any shortage of the most vile political scum.


44 posted on 10/29/2019 11:53:42 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: shelterguy

See my prior posts and consult wikipedia (fwiw accuracy wise) on this guy and his twin brother.

Both born in 1975 in the Soviet Ukraine. Mom died, dad emigrated to Brooklyn US don’t know if he naturalized or even who the dad is. So, like many foreign born people— brothers went into the Army. We allow that as a “path to citizenship” or something. But in this regard.... well a full real clearance needs to be done.


45 posted on 10/29/2019 11:55:14 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: VietVet876

Straight out of the days of the Korean War... lot’s of plants in our own units... language differences, and working against our S. Korea allies.

Yes indeed— this guy could very well be a spy, and Schiff is a apparat of it to protect his own Kompromat of his uh..
predilections. More coming with indictments— hope springs eternal.

For the Mueller WAS a “counterintelligence” investigation— extended by Rosenstein. And the data from that invest— which the dems have a judge saying the grand jury stuff should be ordered available to them (and it shouldn’t) would reveal a hell of a lot. The dems are playing offense defense to find out what Durham has... and at same time trying to still play the coup game.


46 posted on 10/29/2019 12:00:35 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jim Noble

“I never play the horses. I only bet on a sure thing”.

Thanks, Admiral. 7 Days. While the dhims are ginning up the missiles in October. What a f’n circus lying waste of time. And NONE of their business.


47 posted on 10/29/2019 12:03:50 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
The two parties having the conversation have declared there was no pressure. The transcript of the call reveals no elements of pressure. Given his military record, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he has misinterpreted what he heard.

After that, though, his unwillingness to admit that he was wrong indicates that he has some other motives.

48 posted on 10/29/2019 12:04:12 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Jim Noble
EVEN IF there was a quid pro quo offered to uncover evidence of a crime or crimes, this would be WELL WITHIN the authority of the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the United States (which is Donald Trump).

Exactly!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking a leader of another country to look into possible crimes. On the contrary, we should want our leaders to seek out wrongdoing, whether it happens at home or abroad.

49 posted on 10/29/2019 12:07:22 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: KavMan

Whatever happened to reading comprehension? Since this guy’s statement is in line what some people think is implied by the transcript and not the actual transcript itself I am not too impressed with this big reveal.

It does concern me that he among others makes no distinction between “I want you to investigate Joe Biden and his son” and “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.”

Notice that nowhere does Trump directly request an investigation of the Bidens. What he does do his ask Zelensky about Biden stopping a Ukrainian prosecution started on Hunter. But notice the words “So whatever you can do with the Attorney General (RG) would be great.” These words put the choice of what should be done in Zelensky’s hands (and later in the conversation he does agree to look into the dropped investigation). There is no direct request. There is no implied or stated backscratching. There is no urgency. There are no threats of US withholding aid. In fact it is rather casual. I almost expect to read “I’ll get around to it.”.

I find that odd for a “demand” that if not met would mean a loss of millions in military aid the the Ukraine.


50 posted on 10/29/2019 12:08:24 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Yeah— my point about who the dad is— and who are still back in the Ukraine from this guy’s family or pals. And were they Poroshenko’s buddies and gangsters.

It’s a real fear, from understanding gotten from friends who live in/near the “Little Odessa” area in Brooklyn that the dad still lives in. Who, and what does the dad do? Can’t be that old.

Twins— both in the NSC, and both born in Soviet Ukraine. The stuff of sleepers This one dude is photog’d with Zelensky at his inauguration this year-— and he WASNT in uniform then. So why NOW? (is it the Col Ollie North imagery they need? It ain’t working).


51 posted on 10/29/2019 12:08:32 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: missnry

75%-80%.


52 posted on 10/29/2019 12:21:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: John S Mosby

Come on, just doing his job. The phone rang and he was responding to this message:

The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

Then he took off on his assignment.


53 posted on 10/29/2019 12:52:35 PM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

This tells me the upper tier of US military is not looking out for the USA but decided to choose a political party and they are globalist. This easily explains why we have been fighting for 20 yrs. in the middle east and not one of the Joint Chiefs of staff from 2001 to now can give a coherent strategy for winning and leaving the middle east. They either can’t or won’t. At this point I suspect won’t is the problem.

This also tells me that should a democrat win the presidency who’s side the US military officer corp will support if the Democrats push for gun confiscation, hint they ain’t on the side of liberty.


54 posted on 10/29/2019 12:53:43 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: John S Mosby

He’s an advisor who bitched to his superiors that the POTUS wasn’t doing what Vindman thought he should do re: Ukraine.

Naturally, POTUS is required by some Universal Law to follow only the advice of his most self-important advisors, so this guy has quite a case...


55 posted on 10/29/2019 12:54:42 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: John S Mosby

Is the Lt. Col. in Ukraine related in any way to the good guys now in power, or the bad guys who were in bed with Obama and Biden???


56 posted on 10/29/2019 12:56:23 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Mouton

Or playing Solitaire and drew the Red King of Hearts. The one his daddy programmed in his head at the Ladies Garden Club meetings.

“Yes, Daddy”... (er, “mother”).


57 posted on 10/29/2019 12:59:01 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: elpadre

That’s certainly a question for Schiff. The said Lt. Col has a twin brother also Army and in the same organization as this guy.... the National Security Council.

Both born in Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1975 and emigrated with daddy only in 1979 (18 years before the Fall of USSR, and so-— just who is and what does, or did, daddy do in USSR and... now. And what kin or “associates” does he have “back home in Kiev”... so to speak. Who were any of this “family’s” associates, during the debacle that was the inaction and assistance to Russian in the Ukraine-Russia war on obamaumao’s “watch” (that wasn’t, as we will soon learn).

The Bidens— that is Burisma, who financed the Atlantic Council that paid for Schiff’s staff member to fly to the Ukraine and meet with the “former ambassador” Taylor, 5 days before his bullcrap “testimony”. Pretty damn blatant, the entire setup.


58 posted on 10/29/2019 1:06:01 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: VietVet876

Exactly. A spy. Time to change the meaning of the word “Treason” now that the military is involved.


59 posted on 10/29/2019 6:38:16 PM PDT by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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