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Army officer to tell investigators he twice reported concerns over Trump's Ukraine dealings
The Hill ^ | 10/28/19 | The Hill staff

Posted on 10/28/2019 8:12:20 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: mass55th

#8. Re a request for a foreign govt to investigate a US citizen - what makes US citizens exempt from criminal and subversive investigations any place in the world. Phillip Agee and his American cohort, Yahoo/Newsweek writer Mark Hosenball, were investigated and thrown out of England for subversion.

We had hardcore pro-communist journalists in Nam who were kept under some watch and a few were expelled for various reasons including Mr. Hanoi “Don Luce”.

You can be damned sure that the French Surete’ kept John Kerry under surveillance during his trips to the No. Vietnamese/VC embassies/legations in Paris and possibly Versailles.

The same for American SDS leaders who went to Europe to forment student riots there (France, Germany, possibly England). Americans were involved in the KGB “Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament” in England and CND representatives came to the US to agitate here (I knew about them through communist sympathizer contacts).

Interpole watches American criminals/suspects in foreign countries, at out request, all the time. No big deal.


81 posted on 10/29/2019 12:05:15 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: reg45

Is he conerned about the 3 senators who really tried to interfere with Ukraine aid? He’s talking about Rudy when he speaks of false narratives. Will anything ever be done about them?


82 posted on 10/29/2019 12:05:24 AM PDT by true believer forever (Fight the Attacks against Trump: PLANT YOUR FEET, LEAN INTO IT, BEAT IT BACK.)
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To: Luke21
Yep. There is a bank account and a judge to do the evil bidding on cue. This is a lawless country.

There really does need to be massive arrests of corrupt judges and politicians in this country. Arraign, no bail due to national security risks, hold for trial, take 5 years for it go to trial.

Bill the families the cost of incarceration and the bullet once sentenced for treason.

83 posted on 10/29/2019 12:50:21 AM PDT by Boomer (Our melting pot has turned into a pressure cooker)
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To: yesthatjallen

Lt. Col. was a common rank for CIA agents embedded in the military during the Vietnam era.

I had a relative who was career CIA/Army with that rank pre Vietnam. He used to joke that the enemy knew who he was. The USA were just trying to fool themselves.


84 posted on 10/29/2019 1:43:55 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

That’s why a Sr. CIA staffer just came out supporting him.

Here is a cut & paste of this morning news...

“Former Defense Department and CIA chief of staff Jeremy Bash blasted a segment on Fox News’ The Ingraham Angle as “absolutely despicable,” after host Laura Ingraham and her guest, legal professor John Yoo strongly suggested a Trump national security official, Lt. Col. Alex Vindman, could be guilty of “espionage” after news broke that he plans to testify to Congress that he objected to improper White House political influence toward Ukraine.”


85 posted on 10/29/2019 1:46:38 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Here is the Wiki on Bash

“Jeremy B. Bash (born August 13, 1971) is an American attorney.

He was the chief of staff at the U.S. Department of Defense (2011–2013) and the Central Intelligence Agency (2009–2011), both under President Barack Obama.

As a senior advisor to Leon Panetta in both roles, Bash worked on a number of key initiatives, including the creation of a new defense strategy, formation of two defense budgets, counterterrorism operations, a new cyber strategy, and a range of sensitive intelligence operations.

Bash was married to CNN journalist Dana Bash from 1998 to 2007.


86 posted on 10/29/2019 1:51:02 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: yesthatjallen

I did not think it was proper...

Well you poor little snowflake. Maybe you should be assigned to latrine duty or something not so stressful.


87 posted on 10/29/2019 1:53:07 AM PDT by McGruff (Does no one is above the law apply to Democrats?)
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To: tired&retired

Per Wiki

In 2000, Bash served as the national security issues director for the presidential campaign of Al Gore and Joe Lieberman. In that role, he advised the candidates, their surrogates, and staff on national security policy matters, including the Middle East peace process, counter-terrorism, non-proliferation, missile defense, and trade.

From 2001 to 2004, Bash was in private law practice with the firm O’Melveny & Myers in their Washington, DC office. His practice focused on congressional investigations, regulatory matters, and litigation. He then served as chief minority counsel on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the U.S. House of Representatives and as an aide to California Representative Jane Harman, the committee’s top Democrat.

Bash was a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations.


88 posted on 10/29/2019 1:55:08 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: yesthatjallen

Mark my words, this political hack, puke of an officer will be showing up running for political office wherever this turd is from. Guaranteed.


89 posted on 10/29/2019 1:59:52 AM PDT by vpintheak (I donÂ’t want to gain the whole world and lose my soul. - Toby Mac)
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To: tired&retired

It is strange world we live in when it’s a criminal offense for a president to request help from a foreign ally to investigate a foreign corporation for of possible graft,corruption and election meddling...but is just fine for a US President to order the FBI and CIA to spy on his US political opponents using the flimsiest of excuses and out right lies to deceive a federal court into granting the OK to do it.


90 posted on 10/29/2019 2:12:45 AM PDT by RonnG (')
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To: RonnG

Obama weaponized the CIA, FBI, and DOD in addition to the IRS.

Trump needs to do a lot more housecleaning.


91 posted on 10/29/2019 2:15:48 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: RonnG

Vindman claims that he was disturbed about Guiliani pressing a “false narrative” about Biden’s corruption? How did he KNOW its a false narrative? Why is he busying himself vouching for the “integrity” of some other politician? Why is a relatively low ranking Army officer of Ukrainian heritage busying himself with politics when he is supposed to be assigned to the White House for strategic support?


92 posted on 10/29/2019 3:01:09 AM PDT by laconic
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To: laconic

Why is a relatively low ranking Army officer of Ukrainian heritage busying himself with politics when he is supposed to be assigned to the White House for strategic support?

He owes to allegiance to the Party, Deep State and its ongoing coup d’etat and not to the county he now claims to represent. How these low level spies get anywhere near top secret and privileged conversations astounds me. Although ever since Obama appointed a Communist to head the CIA, nothing surprises me anymore.


93 posted on 10/29/2019 3:32:58 AM PDT by RonnG (')
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To: Trailerpark Badass

about as “high ranking” as another NSC alum — Oliver North.


94 posted on 10/29/2019 3:56:47 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Lol...no.


95 posted on 10/29/2019 4:04:08 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: yesthatjallen

Was it a problem for all that good ole bipartisanship when companies located in Ukraine or for all we know Ukraine itself was helping dems to tamper with our presidential elections?


96 posted on 10/29/2019 4:34:51 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: yesthatjallen

Meanwhile the transcript of the call is still out there and this guy’s opinion amounts to nothing when it comes to finding high crimes etc. etc. for impeachment.

The Democrat politician of today = lazy and lame.


97 posted on 10/29/2019 4:51:00 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Fox Shadowbans People On Comments)
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To: yesthatjallen
“I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen,...

Except that ain't what happened...

98 posted on 10/29/2019 4:54:47 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: yesthatjallen
The Constitution’s text and structure grant the President the power to recognize foreign nations and governments. The Reception Clause directs that the President “shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers,” Art. II, §3.

The President, unlike Congress, also has the power to open diplomatic channels simply by engaging in direct diplomacy with foreign heads of state and their ministers.

Zivotofsky v. Kerry, 576 U.S. ___ (2015)

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/576/13-628/

99 posted on 10/29/2019 4:55:50 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Tallguy

There is a hell of a lot of difference (in aptitude, training, leadership, and ability) in a Marine Corps colonel than an Army colonel.


100 posted on 10/29/2019 5:35:23 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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