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Autobraking tech will be standard in cars by 2022, but drivers complain of "phantom braking"
See BS ^ | 10/24/19

Posted on 10/25/2019 9:04:30 AM PDT by Libloather

Automatic emergency braking will be standard in most cars in 2022. The technology is expected to cut the number of rear-end crashes in half, but hundreds of drivers say sometimes the system slams on the brakes – apparently for no reason.

CBS News found reports of several accidents and injuries that drivers blamed on false activations of emergency automatic braking systems. Safety advocates and carmakers say in the vast majority of cases it works, but it is not perfect.

For Cindy Walsh, getting behind the wheel of her 2018 Nissan Rogue raises her anxiety level. Since she bought the SUV new last October, she told CBS News correspondent Kris Van Cleave it has slammed on the brakes three times for no clear reason when she said there was no risk of a collision.

"The first one, I was driving down a four-lane highway going about 55 and it completely came to a complete stop," Walsh said. Now she said she's scared to drive the car, so she doesn't drive it.

Walsh took it to the dealer each time. Twice, she said, they told her they fixed it.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autobraking; automotive; brakes; cars; tech
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To: Kommodor

“...“last car” before it’s too late.”

Me too. We’ll have to pick carefully. Eventually they’ll stop, or be forced to stop, making repair parts for cars without the “nanny” stuff.


81 posted on 10/25/2019 11:46:13 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: TexasGator
Nope it doesn't. It controls all the wheels so that you get even braking on all the wheels. The point is to avoid inducing a spin when turning and braking.

Don't like slid, well then rolled. And don't try to lecture me about dumb engineering. I see too much of it all the time, 90% of which is caused by the belief that it provides a feature that will keep some regulator happy.

82 posted on 10/25/2019 11:46:43 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: TexasGator

Actually it did and the Qualcom sent a hard brake alert to headquaters. I had fill out an incident report for the safety nazis.


83 posted on 10/25/2019 11:54:03 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: mowowie

If you run into trouble (I did again last year, losing 1 of our 2 given key/remote combos at only 1 year old), look into ikeyless.com.

They have been fantastic for all my remote fob/key issues. Got another key that I just had to get cut at the hardward store and program myself with their simple instructions - MUCH cheaper than through the dealer. I admit, we found it IS indeed cheaper in mechanism (our stupid key flips in/out, another thing to go wrong) but if you play with it a bit out comes the key. We use our original as a result but it’s ready to back up.

I’ve used them for years with my other remotes when they just plain died (NOT battery). Always much cheaper than “genuine parts”.


84 posted on 10/25/2019 11:55:44 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: TexasGator

What’s wrong with “slid”?


85 posted on 10/25/2019 11:59:54 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: TexasGator

With a mechanical key, I can always open doors, start the car, open the trunk....magic!


86 posted on 10/25/2019 12:02:07 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: Cold Heart

I had to look up in the manual how to get into and start the car with a dead key fob, it can be done, even with the battery out of the fob, but you do need the fob. Same applies if the fob were malfunctioning.


87 posted on 10/25/2019 12:16:14 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“What’s wrong with “slid”?”

‘Slid’ means the tires were locked up.


88 posted on 10/25/2019 12:16:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“With a mechanical key, I can always open doors, start the car, open the trunk....magic!”

Not always.

But what is your point?


89 posted on 10/25/2019 12:17:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: AndyJackson

“Nope it doesn’t. It controls all the wheels so that you get even braking on all the wheels. The point is to avoid inducing a spin when turning and braking. “

Each wheel is controlled individually.

And it doesn’t activate during turning, only when braking.


90 posted on 10/25/2019 12:19:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

That should have been your first reply. I guess your first reply was your sense of humor coming through.


91 posted on 10/25/2019 12:20:45 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: steve86; TexasGator

Thanks. TexasGator was also gracious to give me that information. Finally


92 posted on 10/25/2019 12:22:22 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Meatspace
She claims the the auto-brake system went Rogue.

This comment needs more love.

93 posted on 10/25/2019 12:25:14 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: TexasGator

His comment reminds me why we often have to disable ABS on off-road or ‘adventure’ motorcycles - going downhill on a slippery surface, etc., You lose all braking control with ABS engaged.


94 posted on 10/25/2019 12:27:07 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Pollard

“Personally I don’t even like anti-lock brakes.”

The first time I drove anti-lock brakes on a snow glazed road it scared the goobers out of me.


95 posted on 10/25/2019 12:36:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: TexasGator

Ah. Thought you were critiquing the grammar.


96 posted on 10/25/2019 12:37:09 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: Pollard
Personally I don’t even like anti-lock brakes.

I don't like these horseless carriages either. My great-great-grandparents didn't need them, so why do we?

97 posted on 10/25/2019 12:37:29 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: Cold Heart

“That should have been your first reply. I guess your first reply was your sense of humor coming through.”

I guess your ‘ditto’ indicated to me you were just piling on and not seeking personnel assistance.


98 posted on 10/25/2019 12:37:57 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Cold Heart

If you got locked out on a cold, rainy night somewhere with the manual locked in the car you’d be in trouble. I guess that’s why they gave me a 24 hr customer assistance number — but that number might be locked in the car also!

‘Key’ to the whole thing (pun), is that the RFID in the fob is passive and requires no power, and for those times the vehicle’s battery is dead and won’t unlock the doors is the metal key stub hidden in the fob. Different manufacturers and models vary somewhat, but you can always get in. I have one of those tiny lithium jump starters in the car to complete the next step, all without calling a tow. The jump starter does work; I have tested it on my pickup.


99 posted on 10/25/2019 12:39:30 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Rebelbase

“The first time I drove anti-lock brakes on a snow glazed road it scared the goobers out of me.”

How so?


100 posted on 10/25/2019 12:40:24 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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