Posted on 10/25/2019 9:04:30 AM PDT by Libloather
Automatic emergency braking will be standard in most cars in 2022. The technology is expected to cut the number of rear-end crashes in half, but hundreds of drivers say sometimes the system slams on the brakes – apparently for no reason.
CBS News found reports of several accidents and injuries that drivers blamed on false activations of emergency automatic braking systems. Safety advocates and carmakers say in the vast majority of cases it works, but it is not perfect.
For Cindy Walsh, getting behind the wheel of her 2018 Nissan Rogue raises her anxiety level. Since she bought the SUV new last October, she told CBS News correspondent Kris Van Cleave it has slammed on the brakes three times for no clear reason when she said there was no risk of a collision.
"The first one, I was driving down a four-lane highway going about 55 and it completely came to a complete stop," Walsh said. Now she said she's scared to drive the car, so she doesn't drive it.
Walsh took it to the dealer each time. Twice, she said, they told her they fixed it.
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You stated thus:
“With the KEYLESS fob you can unlock the door and start your car even with a dead fob battery!”
Why all that fuss and expense for something that works 99.99999% of the time (when is this “not always” - nothing is perfect but damned close), while costing pennies compared to the pointless (there you go) very expensive keyless (holeless) ignition? The expense includes massive lost time when you lose/break it. I can make 25 mechanical keys for the cost of 1 stinkin’ electronic smart key, always have a back-up.
That’s why I love my keyless FOB. Separate from my metal key. I can enjoy the blessings of remote unlock and start but if I break it or even just the battery dies, I can still open the car and start it. No fuss. If it broke, I simply replace the fob and continue using the old-fashioned simple method while I WAIT (key point again) for the replacement. AND have to “program” it.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Why make something so complex?
Just stop! You are putting words in my mouth and I know how the damn things work.
“those times the vehicle’s battery is dead and won’t unlock the doors is the metal key stub hidden in the fob. Different manufacturers and models vary somewhat, but you can always get in.”
THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT - A MECHANICAL KEY!
WHY BOTHER WITH ALL THIS EXPENSIVE HOO-HAH when they go back to the “fail-safe” option - which is MUCH CHEAPER!?
BTW, is it true ALL of these keyless ignition have a mechanical key hidden in there? I’ve gotten the impression some do not.
Sounds like something that will create more accidents than it averts.
And there's no way for the dealer to shut it off?
I believe the new electronic stuff is actually cheaper than high-quality mechanical stuff.
Cute.
The ROI of an automobile vs. a horse worked out very well.
The ROI on some of these new concepts does not look nearly so good. Especially “auto-brake” (OP) and “keyless ignition”!
No, it’s not.
Ever try to buy a key - mechanical vs. electronic? How about 5 bucks vs 100? And the 5er almost never breaks to have to be replaced, anyway.
Nonsense.
But TexasGator says it isn't so. Who you gonna believe. Him or your own lying eyes looking at your dented front end in a collision you could easily have avoided with this dumbass system designed by some know-it-all engineer who knew a lot less than he thought he did.
Thank you.
“WHY BOTHER WITH ALL THIS EXPENSIVE HOO-HAH when they go back to the “fail-safe” option - which is MUCH CHEAPER!?”
A lot of it has to do with theft rates for the older mechanical lock and ignition cars - The insurance companies demanded it. On the newer cars, even after getting into the vehicle with the mechanical key you can’t start it without the fob. About your only hope would be if you are a criminal with a cloned fob.
Yeah, the salesman told me a replacement fob for my 2019 is $400. I looked for cheaper non-oem alternatives — found for $300 but would be without a key for up to 10 days.
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Why make something so complex?”
So thieves can’t hotwire or use a Screwdriver to steal your car.
“But TexasGator says it isn’t so. “
Thanks for lying about my posts!
“Just stop! You are putting words in my mouth and I know how the damn things work.”
I dont think I put any words in your mouth.
“I believe the new electronic stuff is actually cheaper than high-quality mechanical stuff.”
True for the push-button start.
Bless your heart!
You think fob costs $200 because they CHARGE that much for it!
From your link:
In gravel, sand and deep snow, ABS tends to increase braking distances
My wife’s Rav4 has Toyota’s safety system. The system is both good and weird. It braked as some idiot crossed three lanes in front of use to avoid missing an exit(good).
When we follow a vehicle with the Cruise Control engaged one weird thing happens at exit ramps. The system uses the lane markings to focus the radar. On older highways the fog line is not painted across the exit the brakes are applied as the car ahead edits and begins to slow down.
There is a reason for this. ABS has a sensor to detect when any wheel starts to lock up. But it doesn't just release brake pressure on that one wheel. It releases it on all wheels to maintain uniform braking on all 4 wheels so that you don't put the car into a spin. If one wheel is on a very sloppy surface, then the stopping power of the car is reduced to 4 x the stopping power of that one wheel.
“When you quote, you might quote accurately.”
Absolutely. Mine was a copy/paste from your link!
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