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To: Spktyr

“556 sucks against modern armor”

Well, that’s a given, seeing that level 3 defeats everything up to the and including the 762x51 M80 ball, and level four stops 762x63 ( 30/06) AP.

So, basically unless you want to go to a greater than 30/06 round for general use, NOTHING small arms wise defeats modern Level 3 or 4 hard armor. Been that way since around 1928.

On the other hand, a man wearing a modern body armor ensemble (L3A soft supplemented with L3 or 4 plates, whether steel or ceramic/HDPE) is a formidable opponent. Thankfully, we do not encounter such kitted threats; however, in the event of a modern opponent, indeed, men will still be wounded and killed by small arms, but precision will replace suppressive fires.

The 6.5x50 is about what I like. It just needs to be in a smaller bodied case, with modern design to not require complex feed systems/magazines ( less body taper) but capable of pushing that 6.5 120-130 grain hybrid bullet great soft tissue and better armor/material penetration than a simple ball round to around 2900 fps from a mid sized rifle.


37 posted on 10/23/2019 4:15:47 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

6.5 creed in an AR-10 platform with a full auto selector switch would do it.


52 posted on 10/23/2019 5:05:34 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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