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Boris to be forced to beg for delay after Tory rebel Letwin sinks Brexit deal
The Sun ^ | 19 October 2019 | Natasha Clark, Alex Matthews

Posted on 10/19/2019 8:35:14 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: higgmeister

It was a funny sort of conquest when the people who invited the so called conqueror William III presented him with a Bill if Rights binding him to respect the supremacy of Parliament and the limits of his authority, and made it clear to him that he and his wife where king and queen only by permission of Parliament.


61 posted on 10/19/2019 6:56:20 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Cronos

My prediction is that the Queen will stand up for her nation and apologize for having spawned Charles and having benighted Paul McCartney.

She will then dissolve Parliament, apologize to the United States of America for its having been such a pain in the ass in the late 1700s, and demand that the European nations adhere to the conditions of the Peace of Westphalia and a certain number of the various Treaties of Paris.

Next she will bitch-slap Meghan Markle with a rather oversized handbag while high-fiving Boris Johnson and yelling, “Brexit Baby!”

Just a prediction.


62 posted on 10/19/2019 7:06:00 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“If that snaky Mittens Romney was forced into hiding with his extended Mormon family in Mexico (great-grandfather Miles Park Romney went there when polygamy was outlawed in Utah) and then invaded America with Mexican troops would you call that a revolution too?”

In this scenario, would America be being run by a dictator, in the pay of a foreign king or leader who was massacring people for sharing a similar religion/ideology of the majority of the population (as Louis XIV was with Huegonot French protestsnts) and increasing his grip on power by building up a massive standing army led by cronies, and would this army of Mexicans or whatever be coming in to restore constitutional governance and banish the creeping despotism of the madman running the country?


63 posted on 10/19/2019 7:06:39 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: wildcard_redneck
Arguing that it was a revolution based On a world view that died in WW I that royal blood defined a nation? That is some weak sauce.

I guess nobody told them.

There remain, as of 2016, twelve (12) sovereign monarchies in Europe. Of these, seven are kingdoms: Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are of pre-modern origin.

Andorra
Belgium
Denmark
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Monaco
Netherlands
Norway
Spain
Sweden
United Kingdom
Vatican City

Monarchies in Europe

64 posted on 10/19/2019 7:47:18 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

And here are some that are not Monarchies:

Germany,
Poland
France
Italy
Hungary
Austria
Czech Republic
Russia

They all used to have monarchs, now they don’t.


65 posted on 10/19/2019 8:29:30 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: wildcard_redneck

If the royalty world view had died in WW I, it would have had all the others on your list, then wouldn’t it have?


66 posted on 10/19/2019 10:07:50 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: nicollo

The way things are going, what said is as possible as anything!!


67 posted on 10/19/2019 10:24:21 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos
This utterly destroys my prediction that 100% the UK would leave on 31 October.

Brexit is a threat to the Antichrist world system.

It cannot be allowed to succeed.

68 posted on 10/20/2019 3:40:42 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Brexit is pretty definitely going to happen.

It isn’t conservative what will happen there afterwards though. They are to open to third world immigration to the UK, even more


69 posted on 10/20/2019 4:29:57 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: lodi90

Did you see Captain America - Winter Soldier?

Hydra says the same thing. They learned that if you try to take freedom away by force, people fight back.

But if you can convince them to give up their freedom willingly, for safety or benefits, then you only need to eliminate the minority who support freedom and your power is assured forever.


70 posted on 10/20/2019 8:15:34 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Cronos

The EU will grant an extension....they need the UKs money.


71 posted on 10/20/2019 8:18:33 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: higgmeister
I don't doubt that there are royals who dream of actually ruling but 90% of the world monarchs are figureheads and if they make trouble then they will be kicked the last few feet out the door. Hereditary mafia will not be the future of America..

What is your affection for the parasitic, inbred, thieving aristocrats?

72 posted on 10/20/2019 9:36:37 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Not really m this is about 9% of the budget. Nice but not a disaster if lost


73 posted on 10/20/2019 10:03:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: wildcard_redneck
What is your affection for the parasitic, inbred, thieving aristocrats?

I have no affection at all for the royal families of Europe. I am proud that my Paternal GGGG Grandfather, Moses, and GGG Grandfather, Robert, fought with Colonel William Campbell's Riflemen of Virginia who defeated the Tory Officer Ferguson at the Battle of King’s Mountain and mauled Lord Cornwallis' Army in the Guilford Courthouse Campaign which lead to his surrender at Yorktown.

I simply took issue with your rewriting history to say, like William the Conqueror, William II made a conquest of England when he was invited to take the throne with Queen Mary by Parliament as the rightful Protestant rulers to depose the Roman Catholic James II, and by that action ended the "divine right of kings", establishing the principle that sovereignty derived from Parliament, not at birth.

That seems like a big difference to me.

74 posted on 10/20/2019 3:54:35 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

Meaning to say, could we have had a Colonial Revolution three quarters of a century later if the belief still held that George III ruled us by divine right? Possibly not.


75 posted on 10/20/2019 3:58:45 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister
William of Orange was invited by a small faction of the nobility. It wasn't like they took a godamned vote in Parliment. The ‘Glorious Revolution’ was an Invasion pure and simple. That is not rewriting history, it is fact. It was a military campaign organized on the continent of Europe using non-English ships. William's fleet, which with about 40,000 men aboard was roughly twice the size of the Spanish Armada – and assembled in a tenth of the time – consisted of 463 ships. Among these were 49 warships of more than twenty cannon (eight could count as third rates of 60–68 cannon, nine were frigates), 28 galliots, nine fireships, 76 fluyts to carry the soldiers, 120 small transports to carry five thousand horses, about seventy supply vessels and sixty fishing vessels serving as landing craft.

To say that this was not an invasion is idiotic. They didn't use all this ships, weapons, and men to bring flowers and chocolates to the English. The size and power of the invasion force led the English to roll on their backs like whipped dogs. The Dutch stuck it to the English and gave it to them real good.

You claim that I am rewriting history when you ignore the salient, obvious, and irrefutable facts available to anyone with the curiosity to read.

76 posted on 10/20/2019 4:26:25 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: wildcard_redneck
LOL have it your way, but tell me what was the name of the great battle of the conquering army against the redcoats? You say there was no battle?

The fact is King James II could not flee the country fast enough from his own people.

77 posted on 10/20/2019 4:41:50 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

You are still taking abject surrender as a revolution.


78 posted on 10/20/2019 4:53:36 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: wildcard_redneck
You are still taking abject surrender as a revolution.

I never called it a revolution, they did in retrospect it appears. I would say it was more like a forgone assumption.

79 posted on 10/20/2019 6:49:14 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister
Here's some of the hijinks your favorite aristocrats are up to:

"Thailand's 67-year-old King Maha Vajiralongkorn has stripped his 34-year-old consort of all titles, less than three months after she was bestowed with the position in a bizarre kneeling ceremony. Former army nurse Sineenat Wongvajirapakdi was dismissed from the rank of ‘Chao Khun Phra’ for ‘disloyalty to the king,’ the Royal Gazette said, as well as ‘acting against the appointment of the Queen for her own ambitions.’ She was appointed the king's official consort after they met when she was part of his royal bodyguard - less than a year after he married the Queen of Thailand."

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7596635/Thai-king-strips-34-year-old-concubine-royal-consort-titles-disloyalty-king.html Now do your best to justify Prince Andrew raping little girls with Epstein? Are you on board with the 'right of the first night' — also known as jus primae noctis (law of the first night), droit du seigneur (the lord’s right), etc.? The financial records of every king and every manorial lord are full of fines paid by women at all levels of society to be allowed to choose their own husbands or to stay single. Your reverence for aristocracy is disgusting.

80 posted on 10/21/2019 10:03:09 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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