But I have to ask: Were laws broken?
What the Bidens did is sleazy and bad. I think it should be illegal. But I also think that it isn’t currently illegal.
Their sweetheart deals ought to turnoff all decent voters -— but all the decent voters are already voting for Trump. So, politically, as well as legally, it seems possible that the Ukraine/China/Romania stuff won’t matter.
So, politically, as well as legally, it seems possible that the Ukraine/China/Romania stuff won’t matter.
Agree. If Hillary’s home brew classified bathroom server didn’t matter neither will this.
“So, politically, as well as legally, it seems possible that the Ukraine/China/Romania stuff won’t matter.”
Hillary was sunk when Trump tied her to corruption. Crooked Hillary rings a bell?
There is a large number of independent voters sensitive to this topic.
What the Bidens did is sleazy and bad. I think it should be illegal. But I also think that it isn’t currently illegal.
It is illegal for executive branch employees to do what Joe did.
But, he was not an employee. He was elected.
So the law does not apply to him.
Influence peddling is a crime.
But I have to ask: Were laws broken?
Did Hunter keep all the money or did any of it end up in his father’s pocket, or how about if the money was “walking around money” for Senators.
Bribery is a crime. At least it should be investigated and people questioned and bank records looked at.
It may or may not be illegal here, but China has a way of dealing with corrupt officials—the penalty there is death.
Can you say “extradition”.
Yes, I thought you could.
”What the Bidens did is sleazy and bad. I think it should be illegal. But I also think that it isn’t currently illegal.”
I sure hope that blackmail committed by Joe Biden is illegal.
Likely not and you’re right.
However, what it may do is prevent Biden from winning primaries. They will eat their own before we even have to fight them.
Without Biden on the ticket, I really don’t think the Dems can win. WAY too far left are Bernie and Warren. And Bernie’s heart issue will likely matter.
> “Were laws broken?”
That leads to a democrat talking point which is false.
Don’t fall for it.
Hunter B was put on contract at more than $50k per month. That’s Ok, it may pass a legality check if it gets past a corruption review but as you say it doesn’t smell good because he had no experience and did not speak the language. So you and democrats can ride on that one.
But Rudy Giuliani, a former Mayor and before that a tough prosecutor who took down the world’s most powerful Mob, declares more than $3 million stolen from Ukraine and laundered from Ukraine to Latvia to Cyprus, then NYC to an account held by Hunter B. Rudy declares it is illegal and there is plenty more where laws were broken..
Who will you believe?
A democrat talker who says “it was not illegal” or a former tough prosecutor that says he has evidence that laws were broken.
Of course, the state media want you and all their viewers to believe it’s much ado about nothing.
Joe BiteMe pushed forth a 6 hour quid pro quo threat to fire a son’bitch prosecutor investigating his son’s sugardaddy or else he’d withhold a billion in US aid.
If it is questionably legal that Trump did this to Ukraine Biden hangs from his boast of doing even worse.
If yes, then it is unconstitutional to receive it.
-PJ
We shall see. There are so many laws these days that I'm sure they'll find something to hang it on.
That is pretty much besides the point though. Trump really likes assigning nicknames to frame his opponent. I think he needs to switch to "Quid Pro Joe" for Biden to keep the issue at the forefront of people's minds. Also, make the point over and over that if it had been him, as a businessman making the kind of threat that Joe is on film having made, it would definitely be illegal. Drive that hard. Finally, to shoot a cannonade across the bow of the professional political class in America, start asking why such a thing is legal for the political class, but not for the rest of us. The families of the professional political class have been making billions off of their influence for decades. Why is that legal? He should pound on that like a drum every single day.
You can be assured if it were one of President Trumps children they would find one.
Perhaps your correct. Nothing says we can’t pummel them hard and often up until Election Day or until plugs drops out.
Amtrak made an illegal campaign contribution to Biden in exchange for billions in cash. Then some Ukranians made illegal campaign contributions to the Bidens. All 100% illegal.
Actually, there are illegal acts involved. Getting the straight facts however will be impossible with China and hard digs with the Ukraine due to the level of corruption there. The oligarchs run the country, not the government ... come to think of it, here in America ...
>>> Were laws broken? <<<
Only if Slo Joe made specific policy / actions in exchange for the “investment” by the Chinese crooks.
It might violate international corruption laws. Could be why Barr and Durham traveled internationally