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‘This Did Not Go Well’: Inside PG&E’s Blackout Control Room
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Posted on 10/13/2019 6:59:58 AM PDT by janetjanet998

AN FRANCISCO — It was a problem that California had come to dread. Weather models were signaling extreme winds and dry conditions from one end of the state to the other. The risk of wildfires was high.

Pacific Gas & Electric, the giant utility whose power lines and transformers have been blamed for a series of disastrous wildfires in recent years, was determined to prevent another one. Just before last weekend, the company informed state officials that it might shut off power to a large area of Northern California, potentially leaving millions of people in the dark — something no United States utility had done in recent memory. It made that news public on Monday.

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To: Pontiac

They also forced lumber mills out of the State, therein lies the root of the problem. In the 80s sexual orientation training became more important than forestry management to the State legislators.

Now cities burn.


41 posted on 10/13/2019 7:36:35 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: grame

But the poor gentleman who died 9 minutes in because they shut his oxygen off, can practice nothing.


There has to be more to this story then what has been presented so far.

I don’t know anything that would kill someone in 9 minutes with out supplemental oxygen.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3605848

The above was a study on removing oxygen from long term oxygen use. There were physical changes but no one died.


42 posted on 10/13/2019 7:38:18 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: rey

Nonetheless, this death should not have happened, and would not if the power had not been shut off.


43 posted on 10/13/2019 7:40:08 AM PDT by erkelly
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To: bert

Someone above noted a good deal of the problem, they outsourced their power generation. The fires in NorCal occur due to the transmission lines. Now, those lines do not begin in Cal, they begin in the hydro generation north of the border. If they had generation plants, like NG, nuclear and the like close to where the power is needed, like where people live close together, there would be little need for interstate transmission. But, those plants are not green, not “safe” and not cheap so just like with increasing the amount of impounded water, they don’t want it.


44 posted on 10/13/2019 7:40:29 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: JayGalt

PG&E had announced the shut-offs were going to happen at night.


45 posted on 10/13/2019 7:41:25 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: DEPcom

Not sure if I am remembering correctly.

cannot say about the early 70s but I do know they cut off power here to our island as recently as 1999 during Floyd. So, yes it does happen and we deal with it.


46 posted on 10/13/2019 7:41:54 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: rey
If you cannot live 9 minutes without power, perhaps you should have a backup plan;

Totally agree.

47 posted on 10/13/2019 7:43:25 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: rey

Up here in Humboldt they gave us three hours. not 72 hours. Their response for weeks was Humboldt county would not be affected. There was a mad scramble( not me, this has happened before) people were calling the apocalypse.


48 posted on 10/13/2019 7:44:27 AM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: janetjanet998

What did people think would happen when they sued the electric company into Bankruptcy?? they would just gladly open themselves up to more liability from the very same people??

DISCONNECT AND ABANDON ALL TRANSMISSION LINES that go through mismanaged densely forested areas, Tell those Counties, you want Power YOU BUY THE LINES!!! and the Liability,Maintenance,...and you can charge for the transmission of power too.


49 posted on 10/13/2019 7:45:55 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: DEPcom

Tesla owners are fit as fiddles.
Let them walk. /s


50 posted on 10/13/2019 7:45:59 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: 2banana

Simply stated, there are entirely too many dumb people in this world and way to many of them are in positions that can affect all of us.

JoMa


51 posted on 10/13/2019 7:51:20 AM PDT by joma89
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To: janetjanet998

Just getting ‘em ready for the big SHTF event that’s planned for this time next year.


52 posted on 10/13/2019 7:52:41 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: SanchoP

One or two days, and they go crazy. In the northern Idaho, power outages are a way of life. Snow and ice take out lines and equipment every year. We fire up the generator fo 2 hours on, six hours off, until power is restored. Everyone knows it and accepts it. BTW, even a small 2500 watt generator will keep the fridge running and a light on. They can be purchased for under 400$.


53 posted on 10/13/2019 7:53:02 AM PDT by davidb56
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To: grame

Bet he was not the only one, we are just not going to or have not heard about the others. The number of folks with in home health care dependent on electricity is very significant.


54 posted on 10/13/2019 7:53:05 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: null and void

Rural areas (red) were shutdown because those are areas that tend to be adjacent to woodlands. But plenty liberal areas got shut down too. Particularly the Bay Area.


55 posted on 10/13/2019 7:54:21 AM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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To: janetjanet998

I think the whole exercise was to intimidate California residents—bet the follow up with massive rate increases.
What they more directly accomplished was murder in nine minutes. That should cost them a few dollars. Maybe a few executives should get fired and go to jail?


56 posted on 10/13/2019 7:55:43 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: janetjanet998

Just some of the (at home) life support equipment in use today:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Kidney dialysis machine
Apnea monitor for infants (24 months and under)
Oxygen concentrator
Ventilator
Pressure breathing therapy
Infusion feeding pump
Peritoneal dialysis machine
Respirator

These power outages must be a trial balloon by the democrat’s to reduce the costs of their proposed health care plan.


57 posted on 10/13/2019 7:58:19 AM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: righttackle44
Ever consider what each of your solutions cost to someone? Maybe all he could afford was to pay his electricity bill/I>

It's a death panel by other means. Some would see these problems as opportunities to clear out some of the undesirables. Same with the power outages in general. If the only way you can live a normal life in certain areas of the state is to be sufficiently wealthy to have backup generators and battery banks, only people who can afford to have those things will want to live in those areas.

58 posted on 10/13/2019 7:58:57 AM PDT by jz638
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To: bigbob

Was specifically speaking about Commiefornia. Other states have different rules/regs as you observed. Friends who are still stuck there lament about the Solar rules that preclude them from storing energy (batteries) and excess that goes to the grid but is not compensated.


59 posted on 10/13/2019 8:04:01 AM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: janetjanet998

Screw PG&E. Firing competent American Engineers and replacing them the low-quality, low-skilled Indian H1Bs.

Commifornia deserves the turd-world mess it’s in now as it’s companies and the state imported millions of turd-worlders. Yes, Indians and Communist Chinese shit wherever they want in their home countries.


60 posted on 10/13/2019 8:06:29 AM PDT by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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