Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 13 October 2019

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 13 October 2019 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[bray]

The entire investigation is nothing more than DNC dirty tricks and the politics of personal destruction.

[pugmama]

George Webb thinks that everything from gas, oil, drugs, gun-running/money laundering passes through Ukraine. His latest you tube comments really connected a lot of dots re the depth of corruption and who is benefiting from it.

Rodguy posted a site for Webb’s comments.

[bray]

You think Mitt was on the Ukraine gravy train?

[Buttons12]

No European, no matter how sophisticated in medical science, nor anyone similar in any other land, be it an Arab or Chinese, knew how diseases were transmitted or acquired.

"Precautions must also be taken in the neighbourhood of swamps...because there are bred certain minute creatures which cannot be seen by the eyes, but which float in the air and enter the body through the mouth and nose and cause serious diseases." - Marcus Terentius Varro (116-27BC), De Re Rustica.

[maggief]

AC drains the battery, too. Who needs heat or AC?

[bray]

Remember Bosnia was a big drug capital and it would be pretty easy to set up in Ukraine. Do you suppose a lot of the Trashcanistan heroin trade and money laundering was in there too? CIA laundering?

[rodguy911]

Fiona Hill CIA spy/contractor russina sleeper agent?

Her father MI6d the Russian energy and metals businesses is not to understand either Russia or Putin. To Russian experts, that Hill has written a long book to claim otherwise is either her folly, or a deadend into which Hill wants her readers, and now the President of the United States, to stumble.

Her advice to US policymakers and her conclusions are a combination of contradictoriness and clichés. Putin can be “overly trustful”, particularly of Americans; he also shows “he simply does not trust anyone.” He has “consistently shown that he can learn from his own policy or tactical mistakes”; in 2014 he demonstrated can’t learn with a “depiction of events in Ukraine [that was] irrational”. According to Hill, Putin started two wars – Georgia in 2008, Ukraine in 2014 – and has so far ended up successfully. His military engagement in Syria has also proved more successful, she concedes, than US engagements in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Her conclusion: “he will fight dirty if that’s what it takes to win.” His modus operandi consists of “blackmail, intimidation, punishment and blatant distortion of the truth”. Consequently, efforts to persuade him will “likely be seen as a ploy”, and fail. He works “very hard at making him[self] as inscrutable and as unpredictable as possible”. But as clear and obscure as that is simultaneously, Hill sums up: : “the fact is that he does think differently from his US and European counterparts. He does see the West as a threat to him and his system.”

If this is Hill’s advice to her White House bosses, she is either saying they should give up trying to provoke Putin because he is dangerously unpredictable. Or else she is saying he is so dangerous, the White House priority should be to get rid of him. Either way, according to Hill, that’s exactly what Putin expects of the American leadership.

From a counter-intelligence perspective, is there a pattern to Hill’s selectivity of sources; her omissions, factual mistakes, inferences, conclusions, and recommendations? Is she trying to persuade the White House to act exactly like the Kremlin is predicting it will? And if this is the outcome of Hill’s book, has that been her mission to start with?

Hill concludes her book with a warning about Russian sleeper agents and the necessity for counteracting them with seeing-eyes in Washington. “If sleeper agents were still operating in Germany as recently as 2011”, Hill says on her last page, “the chances are that plenty of other Russian operatives are in place…waiting to subvert governments, discredit individual leaders who challenge Russia, and block any actions that run counter to Russian interests.” In a book filled as Hill has filled hers, is she the sleeper, or the seeing-eye? In these days in Washington can anyone tell the difference?

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If it walks like a dog pees like a dog barks like a dog...might be.

http://johnhelmer.net/vladimir-putin-is-safe-if-donald-trumps-expert-on-russia-is-fiona-hill-but-is-trump/

[bray]

Luxuries Tesla owners can live without. $150K car with 2 70 AC.

[rodguy911]

Fiona Hill CIA spy/contractor russina sleeper agent?

Her father MI6d the Russian energy and metals businesses is not to understand either Russia or Putin. To Russian experts, that Hill has written a long book to claim otherwise is either her folly, or a deadend into which Hill wants her readers, and now the President of the United States, to stumble.

Her advice to US policymakers and her conclusions are a combination of contradictoriness and clichés. Putin can be “overly trustful”, particularly of Americans; he also shows “he simply does not trust anyone.” He has “consistently shown that he can learn from his own policy or tactical mistakes”; in 2014 he demonstrated can’t learn with a “depiction of events in Ukraine [that was] irrational”. According to Hill, Putin started two wars – Georgia in 2008, Ukraine in 2014 – and has so far ended up successfully. His military engagement in Syria has also proved more successful, she concedes, than US engagements in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Her conclusion: “he will fight dirty if that’s what it takes to win.” His modus operandi consists of “blackmail, intimidation, punishment and blatant distortion of the truth”. Consequently, efforts to persuade him will “likely be seen as a ploy”, and fail. He works “very hard at making him[self] as inscrutable and as unpredictable as possible”. But as clear and obscure as that is simultaneously, Hill sums up: : “the fact is that he does think differently from his US and European counterparts. He does see the West as a threat to him and his system.”

If this is Hill’s advice to her White House bosses, she is either saying they should give up trying to provoke Putin because he is dangerously unpredictable. Or else she is saying he is so dangerous, the White House priority should be to get rid of him. Either way, according to Hill, that’s exactly what Putin expects of the American leadership.

From a counter-intelligence perspective, is there a pattern to Hill’s selectivity of sources; her omissions, factual mistakes, inferences, conclusions, and recommendations? Is she trying to persuade the White House to act exactly like the Kremlin is predicting it will? And if this is the outcome of Hill’s book, has that been her mission to start with?

Hill concludes her book with a warning about Russian sleeper agents and the necessity for counteracting them with seeing-eyes in Washington. “If sleeper agents were still operating in Germany as recently as 2011”, Hill says on her last page, “the chances are that plenty of other Russian operatives are in place…waiting to subvert governments, discredit individual leaders who challenge Russia, and block any actions that run counter to Russian interests.” In a book filled as Hill has filled hers, is she the sleeper, or the seeing-eye? In these days in Washington can anyone tell the difference?

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If it walks like a dog pees like a dog barks like a dog...might be.

http://johnhelmer.net/vladimir-putin-is-safe-if-donald-trumps-expert-on-russia-is-fiona-hill-but-is-trump/

[rodguy911]

Lots of dummies on the road these days.

[bray]

Only the District of Corruption could come up with a Putin/Trump scandal that was actually hiding Putin laundering money through the Ukraine to the DNC. That would be delicious.

The puzzle is coming together and Humpty Dumpty is getting tippy.

[Alas Babylon!]

What amazes me so much is how LONG it is taking to charge these criminals. Three years? No, four, if not five years!

Mostly I think the investigation must be a fraud—whose sole purpose is to cover-up the actual crimes.

I hope they @#$@# or get off the pot soon!

[rodguy911]

THanks,lots going on week after week.
For sure never gonna happen Mitt is and always has been a loser....

[bray]

That is the media’s job, to hide corruption in the DNC.

[rodguy911]

Is the hildabeast gettng ready for a move?

[pugmama]

Thanks for all the great posts at this site. Bray, I sometimes forget to thank you for your Saturday column. We lived in Northern CA for many years. We saw first hand what happened re land and forest “management”. Our many friends who are still living there( many living in rural areas) are living through the nightmare of rotating blackouts,fires etc.

For those who may not have seen this, this is Victor Davis Hanson at his finest. He is a brilliant thinker who has the ability to put things in such clear perspective. He covers many topics here, including what he thinks POTUS has been trying to do in the past 3 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1o4BAyd7GU

[rodguy911]

THree million with a governor on the speed! You can't go faster than 261 mph!!Won't let you go 304!!After all if 261 mph isn't fast enough for ya.....well I dont know..... tried to make it smaller but it didn't work

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

Youtube seems to have changed its search again. I searched for "maria bartiromo" "bartiromo" etc. unsucessfully but then "morning futures" worked. Please send to ping list.

Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo 10/13/19 | Breaking News Trump October 13, 2019

[Fishtalk]

Jonah Goldberg....I despise.

First, once upon a time I thought he was a good writer.

Second, one of my favorite web sites is Lucianne.com, Jonah’s mother. Understand that this site seems to have none of Jonah the a**hole’s never trump attitude but his mother should NOT be proud of her little traitor boy.

Finally, get this, Jonah’s on This Week on the panel. This is what he says, this very stupid person who threw his talent in the trash....

“It’s not that Joe Biden has any kind of problem with his Ukraine connections but he’s not handling it very well in his campaign.”

Let me ask Jonah something. Lucianne, who was once part of this web site I might add...

YOU DON’T THINK A FORMER VP WITH A SON GETTING BILLIONS FROM CHINA AND MILLIONS FROM SOME UKRAINIAN GAS COMPANY IS A PROBLEM?????

Lucianne, talk to your son.

[Kickass Conservative]

A Tesla S Model has an eight year, unlimited mile warranty on its Battery Pack and Electric Motors.

They can also refurbish the Battery Pack rather than replace with a new one for a much lower cost.