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These Counties Voted for Every White House Winner Since Reagan
WSJ ^ | Oct. 11, 2019 | John McCormick and Ken Thomas

Posted on 10/12/2019 2:55:22 AM PDT by TECTopcat

At a time of deep political division in the American electorate, a small group of counties across the nation has shown extraordinary political flexibility, voting for the winner in every presidential election since 1980.

These 19 counties—well less than 1% of the nation’s total—have in the last 10 elections backed Republicans for the White House six times and Democrats four times.

see https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-counties-backed-every-president-since-reagan-11570786200

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: counties; predict; presidential; winner
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See these predictive counties of who wins the White House. While I sm not a China fan it does show that a partial trade deal is important for Trump's relection
1 posted on 10/12/2019 2:55:22 AM PDT by TECTopcat
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To: TECTopcat

They think like communists and dictators and as such, MUST play games until they KNOW the dems will fail at impeachment and he wins reelection.

They MIGHT survive a year of playing games, even if they take a hard hit.

They CANNOT take FOUR years of battering and I believe they will bob and weave until the election.

The impeachment is a joke and even their advisers likely know that.

But it’s good to get things rolling now anyway.

Then SMASH them into submission when he gets reelected


2 posted on 10/12/2019 3:03:32 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: TECTopcat

These are not “predictive”, they have shown “correlation”. Correlation is NOT causation. Past correlation does not necessarily predict future correlation.


3 posted on 10/12/2019 3:26:18 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Bingo. Remember when Missouri used to be a bellwether?


4 posted on 10/12/2019 3:45:37 AM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength.)
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To: TECTopcat
Ohio has voted for every winner since LBJ.
5 posted on 10/12/2019 4:03:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: TECTopcat

But why is this breaking news?


6 posted on 10/12/2019 4:30:19 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: TECTopcat

And behind a paywall.


7 posted on 10/12/2019 4:31:14 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: norwaypinesavage

Thank you.

There were ten elections from 1980 to 2016. 2^10 = 1,024. So purely by chance you have a 0.1% chance of “guessing” the outcome of all ten correctly.

The U.S. has 3,007 counties, so you would get 30 correct based on guessing. I’m surprised only 19 got it right.

Obviously, elections are not decided by the flip of a coin, but by the carefully considered thoughts of an informed and educated electorate. Whoops! There’s my flaw in logic right there.


8 posted on 10/12/2019 4:40:03 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TECTopcat

Just because you flip a coin and it comes up heads 5 times in a row doesn’t mean the coin is biased.


9 posted on 10/12/2019 5:04:52 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Ah, 1/1024 of 3,007 is slightly under 3.


10 posted on 10/12/2019 5:17:48 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: TECTopcat

States and counties are only predictive bellwethers until someone realizes that they are and tries to exploit it, or they themselves become self aware of it and start to think it means something.


11 posted on 10/12/2019 5:17:59 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: TECTopcat

Ignorant use of statistics.

WSJ needs smarter reporters.


12 posted on 10/12/2019 5:44:22 AM PDT by 5by5 (ad)
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To: TECTopcat

Paywall. Can you just name the counties?


13 posted on 10/12/2019 5:52:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"I’m surprised only 19 got it right."

Well, since in practice it's not random, I'm surprised there are 19.

Take for instance an easily explained statistical trap when Bobo won states like Indiana (with Marion Co voting 105%) and North Carolina in 2008, then gave both right back in 2012 to Bishop Dullard. Bobo wins, but those counties that flipped to Dullard weren't 'wrong' - Dullard could have beaten Bobo with any kind of Trump instincts (and take back the "47%" jackleg comment).

Those counties are still useful as bellwethers and they are polled accordingly...

14 posted on 10/12/2019 5:57:04 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: sam_whiskey
And before that, Delaware. Then before that it was 'as Maine goes, so goes the nation.' Bellwether areas get a lot of attention until they don't.

My own home county [Westmoreland, Pennsylvania] narrowly voted for Mondale in the Reagan 49 state landslide of 1984. In 2016, we provided 128% of the vote margin which tipped Pennsylvania and the election to Donald Trump!

Our demographics did not change much, but the jackass party did.

15 posted on 10/12/2019 6:09:25 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: kosciusko51

Thanks. 3 AM math during insomnia tends to suffer. I used to be good at all-nighters, too.


16 posted on 10/12/2019 6:10:15 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: xzins; All
There was an excellent solution to getting around paywalls posted here on FR on April 23, 2019. It has rarely failed me.

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It expires cookies and provides Twitter links that refer to the article. It almost always works to read WSJ articles.

17 posted on 10/12/2019 6:15:54 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You are welcome.

The math is a bit more tricky than a 50/50 coin flip. One would have to know the percentage of counties that voted correctly in each election, and then multiply those values together. Given that in most elections, the number of counties that voted correctly is higher than 50%, 19 may be closer to the actual random mean than the 3 of a 50/50 distribution.


18 posted on 10/12/2019 6:21:38 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: TECTopcat

Let’s hope this continues!


19 posted on 10/12/2019 6:26:45 AM PDT by B25Mitchell
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To: sam_whiskey

It ought to be, given that only 3 counties + St. Louis City vote Demonrat anymore for President. They don’t deserve THAT many.


20 posted on 10/12/2019 6:27:37 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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