Iran holds surprise military drills near Turkish border

amn ^ | 10/10/19 | Radio Free Europe

[texas booster]

During the Greek Cypriot War in the 80’s, NATO did not intervene.

[Harpotoo]

What puzzles me is that Turkey is going into Syria where they have a President and an Army and Russians and assuredly Russian military. So why are we responsible for the Kurds and not the Syrians and their allies? Or are the Kurds enemies of both?

[Pearls Before Swine]

The question is, is it a surprise to the Turks?

Islamic allies or a rival attach from behind?

[Harpotoo]

Isn’t Turkey invading a sovereign country? Why the hell would NATO have to come to their aide?

[Harpotoo]

Isn’t that basically an attack on NATO?

After all it is being used as a threat!

[Wuli]

I have talked before of this squeeze play against the Kurds.

It is between essentially Iran, which has Kurds near Iraqi Kurdistan whom the Mullahs of Iran does not want to see linked up with Kurds in Iraq, and Erdogan who has southeastern areas in Turkey with Kurdish majorities, whom he does not want to see linked up with the now autonomous Kurds in Syria.

At some point in time, Turkey will go deeper than 20 miles south into Syria from Turkey, while Iran helps Assad go into northern Syria against the Kurds, together eliminating the new autonomous region of Kurds and diminishing Kurdish autonomy aspirations in the region. After that, Erdogan will retreat back into Turkey, with a promise from Assad that Assad will keep control of the Kurds in Syria and prevent them from linking up with any Kurdish groups in Turkey.

What the Mullahs are trying to say to Erdogan at this moment is, O.K. are we going to cooperate against the Kurds, in a way that we protect Assad, or are you thinking you will wind up occupying for good a big swath of northern Syria for yourself, because if that’s what you - Erdogan - are thinking you will be starting a bigger war than you bargained for.

I supposed having started this mess Erdogan could be thinking we will come to his rescue. No, we should not.

[The Sons of Liberty]

Iran holds surprise military drills near Turkish border

So if Turkey and Iran got into it, as a NATO Ally we would be obliged to Blow the HELL out of Iran and their Nuke Program at the same time.

[MacNaughton]

8 Turkey is threatening Europe with the threat of sending 4+ million refugees their way.

Very complex dynamic.

Is part of it to expel Turkey from NATO?
Is it a multifront invasion and decapitation of Iran?
Is it ?????????????

Many many possible end games.

Sunni (KSA/ Turkey/ Pakistan) vs. Shia (Iran/ Iraq/ Syria/ Lebanon)

Turkey threatening EU with more hijra if EU doesn't pay more baksheesh. See Rudyard Kipling, 1911, "Dane-geld

Release of ISIS (Sunni) POWs from concentration camps (in Syria and/or Iraq?) will re-ignite the Sunni vs. Shia conflict.

Turkey finally putting down Kurd PKK (communist) civil war in Turkey. Turkey trying to funnel Syrian (Sunni) refugees in its country into a buffer zone in northern Syrian (predominantly Shia).

And the ultimate prize, the oil fields in Kuwait and KSA.

And lost in all of this is the continuing genocide of the Christian remnant in the M.E.

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

You see it that way. I don’t see Trump seeing it the same way. I am sure you are certain you are right. Ever been wrong?

How much Chinese oil comes from Iran? I don’t see that factored into your calculus. There is a lot not factored in.

[SVTCobra03]

Turkey and Iran will join Russia in attacking Israel and fulfilling Ezekiel 38.

[McGruff]

Tehran, a key ally of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria’s civil war, opposes the planned Turkish incursion.

And both all are buddies with Putin. Who's side does he take?

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Yet one more reason to dissolve NATO.

[MacNaughton]

I simply added other scenarios to consider to your bare-bones outline. I neither applauded or condemned POTUS#45DJT's decision.

Regarding the ChiComs and Iranian oil - it was announced this week that the ChiComs backed out of an agreement with the Iranians on purchasing oil.

The global economy is hinged on M.E. oil and the Muslims and ChiComs/ Russians will be working the political situation in the M.E. to their advantage and against Western Civilization.

[notdownwidems]

Hopefully QUITE a while!

[cpdiii]

There is a terrorist faction of the Kurds of which Turkey has legitimate concern. The terrorist faction is a result of Turkish genocide against the Kurds going back more than 90 years. The Kurds have a long memory. They are still angry.

The solution is simple but totally unworkable. The Kurdish regions of Turkey, Syria, and Iran should be granted semi autonomy if they pledge loyalty to their respective nations. This will not happen. Those three nations all demand total control from their central government least turmoil and strife happen from all the aggrieved people of the nations be they Kurd or non Kurd. It is all about total control least they lose control.

The killing will continue.

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Nobody ever said this wasn’t complicated.

I give DJT the credit for being wise enough to weigh the options and in this case take the path of least suck.

[NorseViking]

Article 5 is not about supporting member’s aggression.

[SunkenCiv]

The Three Amigos

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani, Russia's Vladimir Putin and Turkey's Tayyip Erdogan meet in Sochi, Russia November 22, 2017. (photo credit: SPUTNIK/MIKHAIL METZEL/KREMLIN VIA REUTERS)