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Guns and Cannabis: The Insidious Creep of Tyranny
americanthinker.com ^ | 10/11/2019 | John Klar

Posted on 10/11/2019 7:41:28 AM PDT by rktman

In 2004, Vermont implemented a medical marijuana registry, promising patient confidentiality on its state website. Then, in 2018, Vermont legalized recreational marijuana use and imposed a universal background check on gun-purchasers.

Here's the rub: the federal government was not consulted, and the ATF maintains that anyone using marijuana will be denied clearance to purchase any gun. This was already the case prior to Vermont's recreational cannabis legalization — those who were on the state's marijuana registry were not allowed to buy guns from federally licensed dealers, as the state of Vermont provided the list of registrants surreptitiously to the federal government. Yet those on the cannabis registry could still purchase guns from neighbors — that is, until the vaulted "universal background check" closed that "loophole" for sick people to defend themselves. All without public discussion, or even awareness.

Liberals have been chiseling away at our rights for many decades. They have eroded the gun rights of sickly Vermonters, and no one even knows it. They have eliminated the Confederate flag that Lynyrd Skynyrd used as a symbol of rebellion. That flag is permitted only one meaning now: slaveholder. Soon, the American flag may be permitted only one meaning — the one they impose, the one that calls for its universal removal. Soon, MAGA hats will be joined by other symbols deemed offensive to the P.C. McCarthyites.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; 4473; banglist; cannabis; kaba; marijuana; pot; rkba; secondamendment; wod
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To: gundog

Yeah, ‘vaunted’ would be my choice. They just don’t make editors like they used to.


21 posted on 10/11/2019 8:26:17 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Perseverando

Just pass around the ben and jerrys I guess. Maybe a new flavor for them? Dobbie Delight? Marijuana Mama?


22 posted on 10/11/2019 8:27:34 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: NobleFree

Well, I suppose you could brew/grow your own for home consumption in all three cases so.......... :-)


23 posted on 10/11/2019 8:28:43 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Ken H
Apparently you were not listening to the part where he said we should look at Colorado to see how it has been working out for them. We live in Washington where legalization by any serious measure has been an unmitigated disaster. It had been completely ignored by law enforcement for years prior, but you would not believe the sky rocketing homeless issues around dispensaries, and you can't drive down the street without the smell of marijuana from drivers in front of you coming through your vents even when the AC is set to recirculate. It is absolutely unbelievable!!!
24 posted on 10/11/2019 8:29:46 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Fly a real confederate flag, leftists are too stupid to know what it is

With you on that

25 posted on 10/11/2019 8:29:55 AM PDT by Chuckster (Probably not...)
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To: rktman

Yours is an interesting post. Some years ago, the Supreme Court held that checking “yes” on the 4473, was tantamount to a violation of the right against self-incrimination, and therefore unconstitutional.

It will be interesting to see where this goes.


26 posted on 10/11/2019 8:30:41 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: rktman
Alcohol and tobacco have bad effects - is keeping them legal and regulated a bad plan?

Well, I suppose you could brew/grow your own for home consumption in all three cases so.......... :-)

So ... what? You favor making it illegal to commercially sell any of the three?

27 posted on 10/11/2019 8:32:00 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Chuckster

Several to choose from.


28 posted on 10/11/2019 8:32:12 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: fireman15

And yet he still supports medical marijuana and believes legalization should be left up to the states. And the crowd cheered him on.


29 posted on 10/11/2019 8:33:49 AM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: NobleFree

Yup. And guns too. LOL! Just sayin’ to avoid paying the imposed taxes make your own. And, make your own firearms as well.


30 posted on 10/11/2019 8:34:14 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

True! He is screwed.


31 posted on 10/11/2019 8:35:30 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Beware the homeless industrial complex.)
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To: rktman

If you’re pleasantly stoned you care more about music not so much about shooting people.


32 posted on 10/11/2019 8:36:54 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: NobleFree
Alcohol and tobacco have bad effects - is keeping them legal and regulated a bad plan?

If it is a mistake to allow relatively-unregulated use of these substances, where's the logic is repeating the same mistake with another substance?

33 posted on 10/11/2019 8:38:59 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Ken H

Yesterday my wife was a model in a fashion show that was held in a conference center in area that I worked my last 5 years in. It was very nice at that time, but since legalization several marijuana outlets opened there. Hundreds of millions of dollars had been spent upgrading the facility before legalization. Yesterday, I couldn’t leave my van for very long because bums were milling about looking in ashtrays on top of garbage cans for remnants of marijuana cigarettes to smoke and looking for vehicles to break into.

The place was crawling with security guards chasing them off. I talked to a few of them. They said the whole area was now a nightmare, and that non-marijuana users were becoming afraid to attend events there.


34 posted on 10/11/2019 8:39:20 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: CommerceComet
Alcohol and tobacco have bad effects - is keeping them legal and regulated a bad plan?

If it is a mistake to allow relatively-unregulated use of these substances

Is it? Seems to me that the conservative position is that self-harm is not the proper business of government.

35 posted on 10/11/2019 8:40:51 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: rktman

No choice. “ the state of Vermont provided the list of registrants surreptitiously to the federal government.”


36 posted on 10/11/2019 8:42:02 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: ClearCase_guy; gundog; rktman

And the L and the N aren’t even that close on the keyboard...........


37 posted on 10/11/2019 8:42:10 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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To: rktman
Just sayin’ to avoid paying the imposed taxes make your own.

So guns, alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana should be legal to buy and sell, and to make/grow oneself? I agree 100%.

38 posted on 10/11/2019 8:42:22 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fireman15

You better get word of this to President Trump immediately, before he makes the horrible mistake of respecting the 10th Amendment!


39 posted on 10/11/2019 8:43:33 AM PDT by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: Ken H

The video you linked to was from 3 1/2 years ago during the campaign before he was elected. Even then he said it looked like Colorado was having some problems. It is a hell of a lot worse these days.


40 posted on 10/11/2019 8:44:21 AM PDT by fireman15
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