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California Officials declare Ham Radio no longer a benefit
Off Grid Survival News ^ | October 10, 2019 | Off Grid Surival

Posted on 10/11/2019 6:36:35 AM PDT by AU72

The People’s Republic of California is at it again; through unelected state officials, California is severing ties to ham radio repeater owners throughout the state, jeopardizing the lives of millions of Californians who depend on these repeaters to operate during emergencies.

Last month, repeater operators were sent emails telling them the State would no longer allow them to operate repeaters on public land without paying substantial rental fees. In the letter sent by CAL FIRE, the state claims Ham operators no longer provide a benefit to the state or public safety. They claimed that “constantly changing technological advances” has made Ham radio obsolete during an emergency.

Keep in mind; this is a state that is currently shutting power down in 34 of its counties because its infrastructure cannot handle 20-30 mph winds without risking wildfire breakouts throughout the state.

What is infuriating here is people are going to die because of this decision. It costs the State of California nothing to allow these repeaters on public land; in fact, Ham Radio Operators pay for the equipment and maintain the equipment at their own cost. Ham Radio operators also make nothing from running these radio repeaters; they do so as a service to the public to help ensure the public’s safety during natural disasters and emergencies.

Here is a good explanation of what’s going on from a Ham Radio operator in California

While paying billions of dollars a year to cater to illegal immigrants and welfare bums, California is now targeting hard-working Ham operators who provide critical and vital Disaster Emergency Communications. These people have absolutely lost their minds!

There is a nationwide effort to Kill Ham Radio

My off the grid ham radio

Even most Hams haven’t taken notice, but in 2012 the federal government launched FirstNet, a public safety nationwide broadband network that many in the government think will make Ham radio operators obsolete. In reality, its nothing more than a $47 Billion Federal Cell Phone Network that itself is already obsolete. In fact, it needs LOTS of infrastructure to function, and it creates multiple, single points of failure.

The real story here is Ham Radio is a threat to the government. We make them look stupid! They spend billions on infrastructure that breaks down, while we can literally take a hundred bucks in equipment, some random wires, and in minutes set up a radio system that can communicate with anyone in the world. Hell, I’ve used my kid’s slinky, some Television Coax Cable, and a solar battery system to build a mobile rig that I’ve used to talk to people around the world — You can check out the Radio Rig Here.

They don’t want the public to realize that we can take care of ourselves, and do a much better and cheaper job doing so!


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 1stnet; 2012; 201202; calizuela; cartelfornia; communications; firstnet; freedomofspeech; hamradio; informationcontrol; karlinyounger; repeaters; turdworldcali; waronfreedomofspeech; waronfreespeech; waronhamradio
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To: Hugh the Scot

“Love to see what the output signal from a 350 watt AM/FM Galaxy looks like on a spectrum analyzer.”

More splatter than an iron skillet full of bacon on a hot stove.


201 posted on 10/12/2019 2:18:32 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder.)
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To: Openurmind

Your post demonstrates a high degree of ignorance of how radio actually works.

Precisely why you are not wanted on the amateur radio frequencies.


202 posted on 10/12/2019 2:20:39 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder.)
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To: old-ager

“Give up man - start over - get a new FR account and learn from your beating here.”

No... I think I will stay and take the stoning and survive. What you don’t know is that all is not what it seems. Again... Never assume anything you are not completely sure of. There is more to this than you know. Truth can indeed be stranger than fiction.

And what you mandate to me I would never ask of you or anyone else, it is the very example of the “good old boy club” I spoke of. Thank you for proving my point... :)


203 posted on 10/12/2019 3:13:54 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: higgmeister

re: “This is what I was taught in the military and back then, 45 years ago, it was classified.”

An awful lot has happened in 45 years. An awful lot.

Especially when it comes to digital comms, in amateur radio especially.

Look up a mode known as “JS8” which uses the app “JS8CALL”.

There is even an active operational activity doing HF DF using TDOA (time difference of arrival) since GPS provides a the critical means to keep time-alignment / time-stamping between cooperating receiving stations.


204 posted on 10/12/2019 4:20:16 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim
So, I took a quick look at “JS8CALL”, and I guess in the current age it is possible to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. It reminds me of the Lockheed Skunk Works designing the F-117 Stealth Fighter using computer control to make an unstable airframe fly.

In 1981 I went to school on the PDP-11/35 processor. We had to load the boot address on the front panel with 18 large toggle switches.

I retired from Verizon a few years ago as a Project and Program Manager with twenty years before that as a Sr. Maintenance Tech in terminals. I really feel like a dinosaur now.

205 posted on 10/12/2019 11:23:31 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

re: “In 1981 I went to school on the PDP-11/35 processor. We had to load the boot address on the front panel with 18 large toggle switches.”

Back in the late 80’s timeframe we utilized a TI 960 minicomputer to control the 3-bay test set for the “LRU 1” Processor/Computer for the Panavia MRCA multi-role fighter-bomber’s nose mounted TF (terrain following) and GM (ground mapping) RADAR ... front panel data/address entry toggle switches were “manipulated” to coerce the loading of a bootstrap loader followed by a linking re-locating loader etc. and finally ‘apps’ that ran the Test Set ... punched cards were used as the storage medium, and ‘source decks’ comprised of TI 960 ASM/SAL programs were submitted to CIC’s (corporate information center’s) IBM System/370 for compilation/assembly and linkage and eventually ‘object’ decks were ‘punched’ for feeding to the TI 960 ... my, have we progressed today ...


206 posted on 10/13/2019 6:12:53 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: AU72

BTTT.


207 posted on 10/31/2019 3:57:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: AU72

Nellie Ohr now regrets the time and effort she spent getting her license.

Of course, as a traitor, she’ll have full access to any and all equipment.


208 posted on 10/31/2019 4:02:47 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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To: Mogger

by your description it would appear the bureaucrats are becoming too stupid to monitor ham transmissions!


209 posted on 10/31/2019 4:04:52 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: AU72

Interesting move by California against a means of communication/free speech...wonder how Nellie Our and Danchenko feel about it?


210 posted on 11/27/2021 6:36:14 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Fedora

Firstnet bump


211 posted on 11/28/2021 1:45:27 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: saintgermaine
as most of them are too ignorant to pay attention to the proverbial handwriting on the wall as the “Canary in the coalmine” which is an harbinger for the rest of nation has just about taken its last breath.

Funny you would write that...

212 posted on 03/08/2022 12:46:14 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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