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Paul hits GOP critics of Trump's Syria withdrawal: 'Neocon war caucus' always wants to stay at war
Fox News ^ | October 7, 2019 | Victor Garcia

Posted on 10/07/2019 11:14:07 PM PDT by Trump20162020

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To: excalibur21

Very well said... Fact already proven by history.


21 posted on 10/08/2019 9:00:28 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: robowombat

And the big one, satellite technology. There are many ways to still support very well without boots on the ground.


22 posted on 10/08/2019 9:08:12 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Trump20162020

I do have a couple of questions:

1) Did Trump invite Turkey to invade and occupy a part of Syria?

2) What planned invasion of Syria by Turkey? Is this credible?


23 posted on 10/08/2019 9:48:40 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Amberdawn

Starting to agree. So did Trump invite Turkey to invade Syria? And what would be the harm to keep troops with the Kurds? How many troops are we talking? With the Kurds are they still potential ISIS targets?


24 posted on 10/08/2019 9:49:51 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Alberta's Child

Fair enough, but the Kurds are one of the world’s oldest groupings without a country of their own. Saladin, the muslim warrior who fought Crusaders, was a Kurd. He was also one of the few muslim warlords who fought honorably. I think the Kurds have kept this in mind in the intervening centuries. Of course there are “bad” Kurdish people, but overall, they haven’t asked for much from us and what they do get they use to better themselves. How many ‘allies’ have we had that we can say that about? We have been intervening in foreign wars since our country was founded. One reason why we have such a large military today is because we got caught with our pants down just before Pearl Harbor and it cost us dearly.


25 posted on 10/08/2019 9:57:11 PM PDT by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Our border security MUST come first, on that I wholeheartedly agree.


26 posted on 10/08/2019 9:58:47 PM PDT by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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To: Ken H

No, I’m siding with supporting the Kurds against AQ, ISIS, and many others. The Kurds can and will fight against radical islamo-fascists in that part of the world. As I said, I don’t support more than money, equipment and advisors to help them.


27 posted on 10/08/2019 10:02:12 PM PDT by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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To: jonrick46

I am not for nation-building. I am for supporting a group that fights the same people we fight. Again, my support only includes equipment, money and advisors. I don’t want a large U.S. troop presence there.


28 posted on 10/08/2019 10:05:26 PM PDT by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

The Kurds fought against Saddam Hussein and ISIS successively. Their troops include women as well, so they aren’t typically muslim in that women are just baby breeders. As for advisors, or American troops, I think that can be limited to Special Forces. I think Trump wants out of any foreign entanglements in the ME and I can understand that, but Erdogan is wooing islamofascists and wants to erase Kemal Attaturk’s secularism in Turkey. There are Kurds within his country and he’s afraid they will link up with their brethren across the border and take a chunk of Turkey’s territory to create a state of their own. I would think a couple of hundred SF’s of ours would be enough, along with money and equipment. The Kurds are ISIS targets, yes.


29 posted on 10/08/2019 10:12:52 PM PDT by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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To: Amberdawn
" I am for supporting a group that fights the same people we fight."

We have given the Kurds so much support that it has created a dependency that has made them more vulnerable. America has also done much to exploit them for our own interests. This relationship has created a delicate house of cards and America running things from Washington DC is asking for disaster.

An independent Kurdistan in northern Iraq might seem a good solution. It would be a risky choice because they would become a landlocked nation. So where do they go? The solution for them is a complicated one with Turkey in the equation.

The Syrian Kurds need to create their own destiny and change their circumstances that is not dependent on US shortsightedness and exploitation. For that reason, I agree with you that minimum support "only includes equipment, money and advisors." I think President Trump is engaging in a strategic retreat that has a bigger picture (Iran) in its plans. (IMHO)

30 posted on 10/08/2019 11:49:09 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: jonrick46

I support an independent Kurdistan as well. It would be a crowded country as there are millions of displaced Kurds in Germany and Turkey, but given that Iraq’s borders were drawn by the British with a pencil and ruler, irregardless of ethnic disparities, it would hardly hurt to redraw them again to PERHAPS ease current problems. Iraq’s government would vehemently oppose this, but both they, and Turkey, would get a pesky minority out of their hair. The added bonus, for them, WOULD be a land locked country that would need to behave in order to get it’s oil products out through the Gulf, or a pipeline through Turkey.


31 posted on 10/09/2019 10:31:10 AM PDT by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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To: Amberdawn

I’m thinking Trump is going to lose the evangelical vote because of this


32 posted on 10/09/2019 10:43:16 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

No. Evangelicals are more concerned with America than the Kurds. If the POTUS was abandoning Israel, they’d definitely be angry.


33 posted on 10/09/2019 10:50:48 AM PDT by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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